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07-19-2018, 05:40 PM
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#201
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
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Our Eagle is a 2016 just wrapping up the warranty July 31.Replacing all 4 brakes and seals under warranty. That's the garbage coming from Lippert.Both axles bad, I would be very wary of any Jayco fiver suspension.Lippert just gave us a complete never fail suspension up grade kit. Will install in the fall replace that nylon bushing crap, hotter than ha-ties in Phoenix! Thanks
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07-19-2018, 05:47 PM
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#202
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Hayes Corner
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no there is an oxymoron!
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08-24-2018, 06:07 PM
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#203
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: arp
Posts: 193
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looked around under my trailer today, realized, there is not a single strap, anywhere holding up my array of pvc pipes/valves, that all come together to the dump point. it can wiggle up and down about 4-6 inches,was it supposed to have a hangar strap??? i will have to get some strap material and make a hangar, before my dump pipes develop a leak and/or break, from wiggling and flexing while I tow.
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08-24-2018, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Windsor
Posts: 322
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See the new thread I just put up in the travel trailer section titled "Couple of things to check in PDI . . .". Major issue with the roof membrane and metal siding installed too high causing a sharp edge under the membrane where it is wrapped over the roof edge. And low point drain not installed correctly. Hard to believe that the siding installer, roof installer, and the presumed QA inspector, did not discover the roof thing.
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08-24-2018, 11:00 PM
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#205
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Charleston
Posts: 111
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Don’t just put strapping under the pipes, preventing movement downward, which is perfectly acceptable for real house plumbing.
But also remember to cut a 2 x4 and wedge it between the TOP of the pipes and the bottom of the trailer frame to prevent UPWARD movement as well, which can be just as deadly at preventing cracks and dislocations when on bumpy surfaces.
You want to prevent ANY movement of the pipe in ANY direction! Hope that helps (retired plumber)
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08-25-2018, 02:55 PM
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#206
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,324
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Guy with beard? LOL
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08-25-2018, 04:19 PM
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#207
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Bellingham,Wa.
Posts: 6,680
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bdreinv
Guy with beard? LOL
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No laughing at that guy, that's Gabby Hayes! Many of us rode with him on Saturday morning.
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2013 Toureg TDI
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08-25-2018, 07:37 PM
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#208
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Charleston
Posts: 111
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I don’t have a clue what you all were talking about but I’m sure it’s an inside joke LOL!
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08-26-2018, 02:04 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kathleen
Posts: 23
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We just bought our very FIRST RV, a 2011 Jayco Skylark - fortunately for us, we have found no shoddy workmanship (yet!). Was the quality better 7 years ago than it is now?
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08-26-2018, 05:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Mechanicsville
Posts: 1,479
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Across the industry, I think the answer is yes. 7 years, none of the manufacturers were selling nearly as many RV's as they are today. I think with few units being manufactured, the units were coming down the assembly line a little slower, therefore the workers had time drill precise holes rather than just punch through a floor or wall.
In today's market, most manufacturers are selling RV's as fast as they can make them. Therefore, a unit being constructed isn't at a station very long, so the workers are rushed to complete their particular task.
Coupled with the extremely low employment in the Elkhart area now. Now, to get workers, the manufacturers have to hire folks who can barely walk and chew gum at the same time.
Plus, to get units out the door, I don't think manufacturers are as diligent about fixing problems. They will either rely on the dealer for catch and fix problems before selling, or pay for warranty work. Every manufacturer has predetermined how much warranty work is acceptable.
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Originally Posted by starhopper
We just bought our very FIRST RV, a 2011 Jayco Skylark - fortunately for us, we have found no shoddy workmanship (yet!). Was the quality better 7 years ago than it is now?
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2018 Jayco Redhawk 22J
2014 F150 SC, 4x4, HD Pkg, Sterling Gray
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08-26-2018, 05:27 AM
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#211
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Kathleen
Posts: 23
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All I can say is "Wow". So much for the good ol' American work ethic.
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2017 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport
2011 Jayco Skylark FBV
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08-26-2018, 06:34 AM
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#212
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: kaml
Posts: 1,285
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With the employment rate down overall I'm sure many RV "tradespeople" (yeah, tongue in cheek) who were skilled moved on to better paying jobs and left the newbies to figure it out on their own.
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08-30-2018, 09:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: James Island, SC
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A friend just downsized to a smaller tt from another very large manafacturer and asked me to come over and look at it.
Same story, picked up yesterday. Everything worked and was demonstrated. They did not understand everything.
1st thing I noticed was battery terminals were not tight, battery dead as a door nail, lp drains hanging down under the fresh tank within 6 inches of the ground.
Put battery on charge and will go back later today.
On the plus side, It had Carlisle HD tires.
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08-30-2018, 10:23 AM
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#214
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by norty1
A friend just downsized to a smaller tt from another very large manafacturer and asked me to come over and look at it.
Same story, picked up yesterday. Everything worked and was demonstrated. They did not understand everything.
1st thing I noticed was battery terminals were not tight, battery dead as a door nail, lp drains hanging down under the fresh tank within 6 inches of the ground.
Put battery on charge and will go back later today.
On the plus side, It had Carlisle HD tires.
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X2 on the battery cables soldered all mine! Thanks
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08-30-2018, 08:40 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: LaGrangeville
Posts: 33
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and I agree. Several years ago I purchased a 2010 37' Designer and I have found very few construction or manufacturing errors. They weren't fastidious in cleaning up after drilling holes and running lines but they did use a drill and not their boot. Now we are thinking about a new or newer unit but because there are so many stories regarding the new units I am steering away from Jayco and Thor..... sad.....
The 2012 Ford 350 6.7 Diesel has been great, however.
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09-01-2018, 08:09 AM
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#216
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Las Cruces
Posts: 1,148
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Well be sure to look behind the covers in any other brand in the same price category. You'll find they all look the same. Jayco isn't really any better or worse than the others.
Mine had no 'boot holes', all were drilled or a hole saw was used. Visit some of the other mfg forums and you will see the same kinds of complaints.
Heck, even the Airstream folks had plenty to complain about.
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09-01-2018, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Missouri City, The Republic of Texas
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Most of the issues could come down to the training given to the assembly line workers. You explain every component is called “nail” and issue hammers.
The required tool is always in hand, required tools are now standard and can be purchased in bulk ($$), no time wasted ($$) laying one tool down to pick up another, training in the use of required tools is rapid ($$), the required tool set is durable and requires no maintennance ($$), construction time is minimized ($$) and number of units delivered is maximized ($$).
Have I left anything out?
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2013 F-350 CC SB 2WD 6.7PS
2013 Eagle Premier 351 RLTS
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09-01-2018, 04:20 PM
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#218
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Las Cruces
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But, the workers are paid by the piece (at least the factories I have seen explained). So, proper tool or not they will try to do the job as fast as they can.
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2017 Ford Powerstroke 6.7, Crew, 4x4 (sold)
2018 Toyota Highlander
Maggie, Old English Sheepdog
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09-02-2018, 12:13 PM
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#219
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,324
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No boot holes in are 16 Eagle RSTS looks like mostly hammer holes!
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