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Old 01-09-2016, 08:16 AM   #11
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Now you got me thinking again. what other brands should I be thinking about?
I really like the Grand Design quality. Just not lots of floor plans to choose from.
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:07 PM   #12
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Grand Design has always been on a short list for us, thought they offer nothing we really want, but they have one problem I can't get over, and Jayco has the same problem. They all put darco wrap under the slides, and FAIL to cover screw holes where the floor is screwed up into the side walls. A brand new unit on the lot will have a rotten floor in no time due to the wicking of the screw holes.


Sorry a little off topic, but I try to throw this warning out there every chance I get for those looking / shopping. Look under the slides on the ends please. No brand is really superior in this area, except for a few that use a different design. There is a solution, but hardly any manf. does it. I fixed mine from day one with end caps. $16 worth of parts, $1000's worth of damage eliminated.
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I guess I have to also put in a good word about Jayco. To make a long story short we bought a 2006 Jayco 19H used from a private party in 2011. When we drove in rain, water would seep in through the hinges. I wrote to Jayco and explained the problem I was having and after series of back and forths with the customer service tech and a final letter to the CEO of Jayco they are replacing my front bed door with the new redesigned hinges. They are not only replacing the door but the labor to install it as well. I have to say that after this experience I have to give Jayco a thumbs up for the decision they made. Nine years old and out of warranty I would not look any further if and when I look for an upgrade.
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Grand Design has always been on a short list for us, thought they offer nothing we really want, but they have one problem I can't get over, and Jayco has the same problem. They all put darco wrap under the slides, and FAIL to cover screw holes where the floor is screwed up into the side walls. A brand new unit on the lot will have a rotten floor in no time due to the wicking of the screw holes.


Sorry a little off topic, but I try to throw this warning out there every chance I get for those looking / shopping. Look under the slides on the ends please. No brand is really superior in this area, except for a few that use a different design. There is a solution, but hardly any manf. does it. I fixed mine from day one with end caps. $16 worth of parts, $1000's worth of damage eliminated.

Could you elaborate on this a bit? What do the end caps look like and where do you get them? Could eterna bond tape be used?
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Best way to see the problem, is spray some water on the end of your slide. Watch it run down, then look what it does when it gets to the bottom. It runs up under the slide a bit, and if there are exposed screw holes, it wicks water into the wood floor. Another common problem is the darco material wearing, specifically on the slide ends. The material just doesn't hold up over time, even with the slick wear strip on the slide ramp.

I'm having trouble attaching a picture due to bad sat connection offshore now. For now, maybe you can check out this link, scroll down and see where I posted the pictures of them on our previous rig.

wood showing under slide out - Page 3 - Forest River Forums

One company that makes them is Majestic Formed Plastics. The sole purpose of these pieces is to prevent wear on the darco and the wicking of water into the screw holes and/or wood. You have to remove the end trim to install them. The cap goes about and inch or more up the side wall (covered by the end trim after installation) and extends under the slide about 6-8". They are L-Shape for lack of a better term. They come in pretty long lengths to accommodate the deepest slides, so a lot of times you have to trim to fit. On one end, they are shaped just like the wedge of the slide floor, the other end is what you cut to fit. You pull the slide in just a bit, jack the slide box up just a bit, then the end caps will slide under the floor. Some use double sided tape, others use a type of adhesive. If I can ever get a picture uploaded, I'll post it.
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Ok, here they are. A few of the piece itself, and one installed on one of our slides on previous rig. They make a left and right. There are a few dealers in Louisiana that are well aware of the problem and stock the pieces. I had a contact for the company, which said they'd sell me some later if needed.
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Now I have to check, been under there but don't recall seeing screws. Where do you get that strip to make the repair BigJohnD?
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Thanks John. I'll look into it. I used to be a FR owner once as well
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Edd, I bought them at 2 different dealers. After I had them in hand though, I took a shot in the dark and emailed Majestic with the P/N, and made a match. Here's their contact info.




Majestic Formed Plastics
69815 Brizandine St.
Edwardsburg, MI 49112
Phone 269-663-2870
Fax 269-663-2918

For additional please contact:
Dave Rheinheimer
drheinheimer@majesticformedplastics.com


This is the guy I had spoke with that said he could send some to me if need be. I think he had referred to them as "end caps". I've heard them called all kinds of stuff.


You won't really see the screws that well, but you'll definitely see the hole where the screw went in. And of course, if you have wear on the darco, you'll definitely see that when the wood starts to show on the end.


Others have come up with different fixes. I've seen some duplicate these plastic pieces out of stainless or aluminum. That's all good, provided it won't mess your floor up inside. Another alternative I've seen is someone take a drip edge, just like on your house, and cut it to fit under the end trim. This method does solve the water going up under the slide, but does not solve the wearing of the darco.


Tom, not to hijack this thread even more, but were you over their on that forum as well?
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Yes I was John. I had a coachmen. Same username. Learned a lot from old coot!
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