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Old 02-23-2011, 05:43 PM   #11
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I'm not really sure that the vacuum bonded fiberglass on Jayco is any better or worse than any other brand. When I was looking for a new trailer about 5 years ago the salesman (not Jayco) told me that the vacuum boned panels have improved and they only have trouble about 30% of the time....I swear that is what the guy said. Not odds I would take! I have found that Jayco quality (BHS31) is as good or better than any other trailer I have owned so maybe the fiberglass bonding is better too.
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Old 04-23-2011, 07:21 PM   #12
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I have a 2005 Designer with aluminum wall framing and fiberglass (gel coat) sides. Up until 6 months ago it was stored outside, uncovered. I bought it used in 2007. I have not found any delamination on the trailer anywhere.

We were not looking specifically for fiberglass, but we did like the idea of aluminum wall frames. In the Northwest, we have plenty of moisture, and wood frames with leaks can easily end up with dry rot in our moist climate.

My wife fell in love with this trailer, one of the first we looked at, and she would not seriously consider any others we saw afterward. We were upgrading from a 27-foot Hi-Lo.
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:46 PM   #13
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snip......I would be interested to hear if any Jayco owners have experienced delamination w/ theirs. Mike
A little off thread topic, but yes, I had a delamination issue with the Filon on my present Eagle. Jayco addressed/repaired the issue without hesitation, identified the root cause, and I remain a happy camper. This is my 2nd Jayco Eagle with the Filon outer surface, and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another.



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Old 04-23-2011, 08:46 PM   #14
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The 'fiberglass sides are really not fiberglass in the sense we think of it. The trade name is "Filon" and is used by all of the builders. It's constructed of 1/8" luan( not very strong) with a layer of chopped mat sprayed on it to hide the wood grain of the fiberglass and gelcoat shot on top of the mat. To do a solid fiberglass layup to achieve the same thickness would at least double and very likely triple the weight.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:46 PM   #15
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The part I don't understand is why they use an aluminum frame and then put heavy fiberglass sides on it. The heavy figerglass negates any weight savings.
I have owned RV's since 1979 and I will never again own anything other than a slick side. Currrently a 2004 Designer stored outside. No issues nor have I read of any on this web site.
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Old 04-23-2011, 10:51 PM   #16
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My idea of a lite weight trailer would be aluminum structure and aluminum siding. I would buy one like that in a minute. I much prefer the painted metal sides rather than the smooth sides that the decals will be peeling on. I have considered taking off most of the decals now before the outside coating gets much sun.

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I've got a 2006 Jayflight 27.5 BHS that I've used in all kinds of weather (mountains, sun, etc) for 5 full seasons. I've always stored it outside in harsh WNY (Buffalo, NY) Winters with no covers of any kind. I've had absolutely ZERO problems with the filon siding.

Besides, let's be real.. Appearance-wise there is no comparison between the high-quality glossy looks of a 'fiberglass' sided camper and an alumunium sided trailer. To each there own but the glossy, clean look of the fiberglass blows away the alumunium in my opinion.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:16 PM   #18
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Just little things that make a world of difference such as I'm 6'1" and I can walk around the bed without hitting my head in our Eagle 321 and my wife said absolutely "no way Jose" to a shower in her bedroom.
we spent more than we planned but we are the kind of folks that keep stuff a long time so the cost per trip hopefully will get real cheap in about 15 years,after 4 trips its now under 10K a campout
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More important than the difference between siding is the difference in construction. The Jayflights use all wood construction with fiberglass insulation while the Eagles use welded aluminum framing in the floors and walls with foam insulation. The Eagle TTs have wood roof trusses with fiberglass insulation while the Eagle fivers have aluminum trusses and foam insulation in the ceiling (why Jayco doesn't do that for the TTs is beyond me). Fiberglass insulation will hold far more water than foam in the event of a water leak, increasing the potential for damage. Fiberglass can settle over time creating "heat holes" but foam is reasonably stable.

The Eagle line has better construction than the Jayflights. There are more 110v outlets available (one can never have too many outlets!). Many of the options in the Jayflight line are standard in the Eagle line and the Eagles have more options available.

Going back to the siding issue. While the Filon siding looks better than aluminum and is far more dent resistant, the aluminum siding can be peeled back for repairs and modifications. Filon is pretty much impossible to peel back plus the foam insulation makes it pretty much impossible to pull wiring etc.

For example, two Jaycos I have considered are the Jayflight G2 33RLDS and the Eagle 330RLTS. These have very similar floor plans with the Eagle having a third slide in the bedroom. That additional slide increases storage room immensely but one pays for it with additional tongue weight (the entire trailer is heavier). To accomodate the bedroom slide, the Eagle has less kitchen counter space than the G2. The countertops in the Eagle's kitchen are much better and the range has a larger oven.

Both the G2 and the Eagle have two backwalls available: an entertainment center and an expensive, optional (plastic) ledgestone fireplace. Both walls in the Eagle have a 110v outlet on the sidewalls at the back. The G2 does not.

The two things that pretty much have clinched the Eagle for me were the increased bedroom closet space (which is huge for me since I will be fulltiming) and the welded aluminum framing with foam insulation in the walls and floor. I just wish they had done that in the ceiling like they did with the fivers.
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Just little things that make a world of difference such as I'm 6'1" and I can walk around the bed without hitting my head in our Eagle 321 and my wife said absolutely "no way Jose" to a shower in her bedroom...
I'm a tall broad but still, that's only 5'8" so head room isn't a problem. I agree with your wife about a shower in the bedroom. In fact, I don't want any part of a bathroom in my bedroom, even a sink. That and pass through bathrooms are deal killers for me due to lack of privacy. If I buy the 330RLTS (more a matter of when than if), one mod I will do will be to remove the sliding door between the bathroom and the bedroom and fill in the doorway with a matching wall (actually easier than it looks). It isn't that much further to the hall entrance from the bedroom.
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