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Old 12-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #11
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I put that pipe foam on mine and it's gotten down to 23* with no problems, but I do leave a slow drip when it gets that cold.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:21 PM   #12
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Hmmm, I would have thought that the presence of a 15 mph wind on top of a 34 degree outside temp, creating the lower "wind chill" temp could be an issue (freeze). Must be why weather forecasters say "feels like"

On Edit: I guess where wind chill comes into play is when the outside temp is at/or below freezing then it may speed up the freezing process (?).

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Wind chill makes the temperature feel colder to living things that produce heat. EX: people produces heat and it warms the air around themselves. Wind blows the heat away, replacing the warm air with cold air making it feel colder to the person. A water hose outside will loose heat quicker if it is windy and the water is warmer than the air temperature, BUT once the water in the hose is the same temperature as the air, the wind has no effect on the temperature of the water. The temperature of the water in the hose can not get colder than the ambient air temperature no matter how hard the wind blows.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:21 PM   #13
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We have been out in temps in the low 20’s. We just fill our underbelly tank (un-insulated), and use the water pump as needed. We have had no issues. The hose is kept in the cargo hold.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:51 AM   #14
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tlhdoc, you are spot on in your explanation of wind chill vs actual temp. My father was a WWII pilot with all things weather-related as a hobby. He explained this issue in pretty much the same way. It is, in fact, impossible for water standing in the hose to get colder than the ambient temp, period.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:45 PM   #15
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I always thought wind chill was the way cold felt to a person, It has no effect on how a water hose would react to cold temperature.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:40 PM   #16
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When we are in freezing temps, we put enough water in the fresh water tank to get us by and then unhook the fresh water hose. At those temps (26 to 36) I wouldn't think you would have a problem with the tanks freezing. We have camped in our unit down into the teens and not had a problem.
That is good to know!!! Thank you.
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Hi Bob. Thank you for the suggestions. Fri night I think will be the coldest. Why would you leave the gray water valve open? Can you dump gray water on the ground at CG's??
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:49 PM   #18
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snip...... Why would you leave the gray water valve open?....snip
I only mention leaving it open not knowing how full the tank was prior to "dripping" the faucet over night.

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snip...... Can you dump gray water on the ground at CG's??
You would have to ask at the particular CG your camping at.., but I wouldn't think a CG with full hook-ups would allow it. I know at some State and Federal CG's I've camped at you can run gray water on the ground, but always best to ask.

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Old 12-30-2012, 04:51 PM   #19
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We bought a heated hose from CW last year after waking up to frozen hose.its not that expensive and probably not much more than the DIY's
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tlhdoc, you are spot on in your explanation of wind chill vs actual temp. My father was a WWII pilot with all things weather-related as a hobby. He explained this issue in pretty much the same way. It is, in fact, impossible for water standing in the hose to get colder than the ambient temp, period.

Thank you. I am not always sure if what I am typing is understood by those that are reading it.
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