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Old 04-29-2014, 11:26 AM   #1
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Need advice on towing in mountains

Hello friends,

I am prairie boy, and will be towing my 32bhds into the Rockies this summer with a F250 diesel, I will be going to Banff and then down to Waterton.

I am not worried so much about going up, as about coming down. Going down kinda scares me. I want to take it slow. Any advice on what gear I should downshift to? I am not that experienced in towing at the best of times and do not want to ride the brakes.

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Old 04-29-2014, 11:30 AM   #2
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Downshift to the gear that allows you to control your speed best...


Always a good thing to stop completely at the top of a big hill... then let yourself go slowly (instead of coming in the hill at 90-100km/h!!!). Downshift and apply brakes to keep a certain speed...


For example, you want to go down at 70km/h.... downshift, apply brakes lower speed to 60-65 then let the brakes off.... take a bit of speed, then rebrake... don't go down a 1-2km hill with the foot on the brakes... you'll overheat them and won't have braking power when you need it!

Ensure that your TT brakes can stop you...ie set the power high enough... but not too high so that the wheels lock up as soon as you brake...no good!
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:48 PM   #3
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X2. Coming down Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado with a 4-spd auto & gas engine, I had to go all the way down to 1st gear. I pulled over in the right lane and cruised down the hill at about 30mph never having to touch my brakes. As long as you're not over-revving, you'll be OK.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:16 PM   #4
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If your Ford has the 6 speed trans with the tow/ haul feature, make sure you use it. It works great for helping keep your speed down. The engine may rev a little going down the steeper grades, but you save your brakes for when you need them. You can trust the trans, just watch the trans temp gauge.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:17 PM   #5
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Does your Ford Diesel come with an exhaust brake? My Dad has a similar weight and length trailer and a 2012 Silverado 2500 Diesel and in tow/haul mode with the cruse on it will maintain the speed you want regardless of the downgrade using the exhaust brake. He went down the 7% grade of I-70 to Denver and had the tow/haul and cruse set at 30 mph and never touched the brakes once with a 10,000 lbs trailer. Impressive.
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Old 04-29-2014, 02:04 PM   #6
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Never go down faster than you went up. Use the tow haul mode of the truck and you should be fine.
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Thanks all, interesting on engine breaking with exhaust breaking

I don't think I have an exhaust brake, just the tow haul. There are differences as explained in this link I just found:

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...45/index2.html

What I didn't realize is you can just tap on the brakes to downshift when in towhaul. That will be helpful when I go down that first big hill.

Question though: Do I manually downshift as well, or just let the towhaul do its job?

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You can downshift if you feel the need. However diesels do not have compression braking like gassers do. that is why the jake brake on the exhaust side. First thing I did when I got my truck was to install drilled and slotted rotors all the way around and more aggressive brake pads.. as I drive lots in the mountains and to me whoa is more important than go.
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Not sure how the Ford tranny and tow/haul work...but on my Sierra if I want the downshifting effort to be applied properly, I have to have the tow/haul activated and I need to downshift manually... If I simply use the tow/haul, the engine will rev up at the most inconvenient time!!!
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You do not need to downshift, the Tow/ Haul will do that for you. It works rather well and will get more aggressive if you brake. Once you brake, it will want to keep you at a lower speed (what ever speed you braked to) until you increase it again using the gas pedal. Any large enough load on a steep enough grade may require some braking to assist the tow/ haul. YMMV.

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I don't think I have an exhaust brake, just the tow haul. There are differences as explained in this link I just found:

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...45/index2.html

What I didn't realize is you can just tap on the brakes to downshift when in towhaul. That will be helpful when I go down that first big hill.

Question though: Do I manually downshift as well, or just let the towhaul do its job?

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