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Old 05-21-2018, 08:43 AM   #1
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Nose high

Is anyone out there having trouble with the new eagle HT 5th wheels sitting High in the back of your pick up truck? Iím not really sure what I can do to change things and still maintain adequate bed rail clearance. I drive a 2016 ram 2500 and have a 2018 eagle HD 29.5. My truck is completely stock yet even with the trailer sitting on it the truck is level, but the nose of the trailer thatís almost 10 inches higher in the front then at the rear bumper. It seems to me that the only solution is raising the trailer about 5 inches at the axle which seems excessive to me?
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:59 AM   #2
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Wow, 10 inches high is way out of whack. My similar rig (see below) ends up with the front a couple of inches high, and that's with 18 inch tires on the truck and 16s on the trailer.

I agree with you that going up 5 inches on the trailer axles is excessive. I would be worried about being top heavy.

Good luck in getting it resolved.
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Is anyone out there having trouble with the new eagle HT 5th wheels sitting High in the back of your pick up truck?
Mew0050, there are a ton of posts on here concerning this exact issue. From taller tires on the FW to adding sub-frames. I moved the FW springs to the lower hole on the spring shackles, raised the pin box to the highest level, and lowered the FW hitch to it's lowest level. Ended up with about 5.5" inches above the tailgate and 6.5" above the rails at the front. Still nose high but acceptable to me.


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I would measure from the front and rear frame rails to the ground (equal distance fore/aft from the axles for each measurement) for the most accurate measurements.

FWIW, we were looking at a few 5th wheel Eagle HT's late last year. According to our measurements, our '16 Ram 3500 (single rear wheel), which sits slighly lower than a 2500, would have resulted in an 7-8" nose-high scenario---even with 2-3" of rear end sag.

As for possible (partial) solutions, sometimes there are two attachment points for the spring hangers. If it's not already in the higher position you could move it to that position. If your Eagle has the 15" tires, you could upgrade to 16" rims and larger tires.

Outside of that, a possible option is to have spacer tubes welded between your suspension and the frame. However, I can't imagine the aesthetics of having the trailer riding an additional 3"-6" above the tires.

Good luck.
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I would be worried about over passes!
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Knock on wood, haven’t lost the ac yet

Raising the trailer shouldn’t change my high point I don’t think, the trailer is already sitting high so if I raised (lowered the axles) seems like the wouldn’t be a change in overall height??? Am I missing something?

This 5th wheel Buisness has taken camping to an all new level of complication!!!!
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Knock on wood, havenít lost the ac yet

Raising the trailer shouldnít change my high point I donít think, the trailer is already sitting high so if I raised (lowered the axles) seems like the wouldnít be a change in overall height???
I agree that any change in height would be very small.

And for a reference point, my HT is 12' 8" high at the front AC.
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Knock on wood, haven’t lost the ac yet

Raising the trailer shouldn’t change my high point I don’t think, the trailer is already sitting high so if I raised (lowered the axles) seems like the wouldn’t be a change in overall height??? Am I missing something?

This 5th wheel Buisness has taken camping to an all new level of complication!!!!
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If there would be a change in height, it would be very small. My 27.5 RKDS is slightly less than 12'8" to the top of the front A/C when hooked-up.
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I agree that any change in height would be very small.

And for a reference point, my HT is 12' 8" high at the front AC.
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If there would be a change in height, it would be very small. My 27.5 RKDS is slightly less than 12'8" to the top of the front A/C when hooked-up.
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Thanks, great To have a reference!
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