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Old 08-19-2017, 09:17 AM   #1
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Recommendation on new tires for tow vehicle?

Hello all. I'm looking for recommendations on new tires for my tow vehicle. I live in the inland northwest where we can have some pretty severe winters. My tow vehicle is my everyday car as well so I'm looking for tires that provide a good balance in terms of towing as well as quiet ride, winter traction, etc. I currently have Goodyear Wrangler SRA tires that came stock on the truck and the reviews suggest these are pretty awful on snow and ice (just got the truck so haven't had a chance to find out for myself).

By way of background, the truck is a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab 4x4 standard bed with the 5.3 liter engine. I'm well within tow thresholds, pulling a Jayco 22FQSW with a dry weight of just over 4200 lbs. The truck has a listed tow capacity of 9600 lbs and a GCWR of 15,000 lbs.

So...do I really need to go to E rated tires? Are P-metrics just fine? Appreciate anyone willing to share their experiences and recommendations!
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I just replaced the set of SRA's that came stock on my RAM. I can confirm that they are not very good in inclimate weather or snow, especially after they have worn down abit.

I did consider switching to LT's but I would have had to change sizes in order to get an LT that fit the 20" rims. I don't have a whole lot of tongue weight and have never had an issue with the softer sidewalls on the P-rated tires when towing. So I stuck with P-rated tires but moved to an All-Terrain tread design (Dean Back Country SQ-4 from Les Schwab). I haven't noticed much difference in noise or ride and only a minor ~.5mpg decrease in fuel economy. They also increased the load rating per tire by about 80lbs over the SRA.

If you aren't having any issues related the to P-rated tires when towing then probably no need to move to something higher rated. If you are having some issues when towing or may be moving to a larger trailer at some point then it would probably be worth the switch. In either case, move to an All-Terrain tread design to address the traction concerns.
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Day driver or TV or both shouldn't be a factor. You drive a pickup so put truck tires on it. Passenger tires are for cars. I have never understood when folks complain about a rough ride with certain tires. I know some are stiffer etc, but if you are really sensitive then my suggestion is don't drive a pickup. I would go with LTs or at least the same weight rating the truck came with.

My tv is a 2500HD Silverado and although I don't drive it daily, I have never felt like I was getting beat todeath when I do. Just replaced tires with LT's just like it came with.
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Day driver or TV or both shouldn't be a factor. You drive a pickup so put truck tires on it. Passenger tires are for cars. I have never understood when folks complain about a rough ride with certain tires. I know some are stiffer etc, but if you are really sensitive then my suggestion is don't drive a pickup. I would go with LTs or at least the same weight rating the truck came with.

My tv is a 2500HD Silverado and although I don't drive it daily, I have never felt like I was getting beat todeath when I do. Just replaced tires with LT's just like it came with.
Most 150/1500's come with P-rated tires standard. LT's are optional and most dealers don't order them with LT's because the vast majority of buyers want the (real or perceived) smoother ride. Step up to a 250/2500 or higher and LT's then become standard.
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I run LT tires as well. Toyo AT 2 Extremes. 35" Tires on my F150. I run aout 65 psi in them (max 80 psi) and it is a massive improvement over the P rated tires that came stock on the truck. The ride is a little rougher but not really an issue as our roads are terrible anyway so its not a big deal. Truck tires are the way to go.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:26 PM   #6
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Toyo Open Country A/T, these are LT tires and will provide excellent traction in inclement conditions and still provide a comfortable daily ride.
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I am running Bridgestone Dueler AT RHS in LT265/70/17 load range C on my wife's Ram 1500. Nice upgrade over the stock P rated tires that were standard.
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Old 08-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #8
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My 2014 F150 with the Heavy Duty package came with OEM BF Goodrich Rugged Trail TA's, LT245/75R17 LR E. The sticker on the door calls for 55 psi in the front tires, and 60 psi in the rears.

So far, they have done well. Have 44k miles on them so far, and they still look good.
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I grew up in Spokane. We lived on the south hill. My dad drove up Grand Blvd. every day in our Ford sedan with an open differential and a set of snow tires on the rear. He always made it. I am confident your 4X4 will handle the roads with its factory tires. I think you answered your own question. My truck is also an every day vehicle and I appreciate a smooth quiet ride. My P rated tires handle my towing needs without any problem and my trailer is similar to yours in weight. Without question LT tires spec out with higher ratings but in my case they have no real world advantage beyond the bragging rights. My tires are Michelin LTX AT2's. I will buy these again when they need replacing, even though they are P rated.
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Smile,

Welcome and congrats on the new tv!!!

As for the stock GY tires, I would highly suggest going ahead and replacing them. We had the same tires (LR E) on our '13 HD, and the first two winters here in Mi they weren't to bad.... but as the tires aged the winter traction got worse and worse..... And the third winter ('15/'16) they were pretty bad.

When I replaced the tires (fall of '16) they had just over 40k mikes, and a tread of 8/32 and 9/32, so still a decent amount of tread was left when they were replaced.

As for a P vs LT rated tire, you don't need an E, or even a D rated tire. But a C rated tire would do the job just fine. I went with a LR C on our '10 Chevy 1500 to get rid of the P rated "wiggle" the stock tires had when towing our last tt.

I put the Cooper A/T3's on the 1500 and was very happy with them! Great on dry or wet roads, snow and ice, they just chewed threw everything. Even when heading to Northern Mi or Northern Ontario to go snowmobiling. I went with the Cooper ATP's for our HD due to being ~$50 cheaper than the A/T3's. There is a slight difference in the thread pattern between the two, but the same rubber composition. This past winter was pretty mild so I can't give a good comparison between the two. It was so mild we didn't even have our guys snowmobile trip to the Soo, Ontario area.

Good luck shopping!!!
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Michelin defenders. Closest thing you can find to a commercial rib tire for pickups. The most quiet tire I've ever run on a truck. Load Range E tires if they are all terrain can be obnoxiously loud.


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I'm running Yokohama Geolander load range E LT's on my 1500. Even though I don't need that much payload capacity I've always felt E's give me longer life with fewer problems than "lighter" tires. I run the factory recommended 35 psi for smooth daily driving and 45-50 when under a load. When I'm tire shopping I look at the top 5 or 6 tires in my size on tirerack.com and Consumer Reports and shop by price among those.
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Hello all. I'm looking for recommendations on new tires for my tow vehicle. I live in the inland northwest where we can have some pretty severe winters. My tow vehicle is my everyday car as well so I'm looking for tires that provide a good balance in terms of towing as well as quiet ride, winter traction, etc. I currently have Goodyear Wrangler SRA tires that came stock on the truck and the reviews suggest these are pretty awful on snow and ice (just got the truck so haven't had a chance to find out for myself).

By way of background, the truck is a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab 4x4 standard bed with the 5.3 liter engine. I'm well within tow thresholds, pulling a Jayco 22FQSW with a dry weight of just over 4200 lbs. The truck has a listed tow capacity of 9600 lbs and a GCWR of 15,000 lbs.

So...do I really need to go to E rated tires? Are P-metrics just fine? Appreciate anyone willing to share their experiences and recommendations!
I bought a set of Michelin LTX A/T 2 for my truck and they are performing very well, they are quiet and proved their worth during our unusually long winter in Vancouver BC. I pull a 5500 lb trailer and have no problems with them. I bought them with towing in mind. If you have really bad snowy winters, I would suggest a dedicated set of winter tires on rims. A lot of mountains may require tires rated with the severe winter symbal or chains.
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I run the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor in E load and they are quiet with the Kevlar and do great in the snow.
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I recently upgraded to E rated Hankook Dynapro HT and I inflate to 65 psi when towing. The only complaint I have is the treads are terrible at grabbing rocks and then flinging them like a machine gun when I hit pavement!
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I recently upgraded to E rated Hankook Dynapro HT and I inflate to 65 psi when towing. The only complaint I have is the treads are terrible at grabbing rocks and then flinging them like a machine gun when I hit pavement!
X2 - my Back Country A/T's do the same thing. Most get caught by the mud flaps but there is still a lot of impact noise. I'm imagining those are when the rocks hit the neighbor's car when they leave it parked by the curb...
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Michelin defenders m/s. I left the "all terrain" type tire for these rib tires because of the noise.

I'm absolutely loving these "street" tires, and when it gets winter I'll use 4 wheel drive. Let's admit it: these 3/4 ton crew cabs are highway queens! [emoji3]


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If your weather is that bad, I would always recommend running separate snow and summer tires.

I have had great winter results with the Blizzaks (think they are the DMV-2 model but not certain). Just replacing now after 5 years service and 70,000km (45,000mi). The first 4 years were great, I was getting a bit of slippage in snow last winter. I also run them -1 size on smaller 17" rims. Narrower taller tires cut through snow better, with a heavier contact patch.

For summer I have 1 year on my Michelin Premier LTX (255/65R18). Really liking these tires; huge decrease in cabin noise over the OEM crap tires, good traction in all weather (just did some highway driving in torrential downpour last week - felt great), towing is steady and smooth. Same price as the Defenders and had great initial reviews. It is an LT tire, but not LRE.
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