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07-20-2018, 09:44 AM
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Schwintek Slide in Jayco
Found this very interesting https://youtu.be/JEN5gYf4lQ8
This dealer sells Jayco as well as many other OEM’s. Listen carefully to what is said concerning Schwintek vs other slide designs.
It is no secret that techs hate it.
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07-20-2018, 02:55 PM
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JAYCO is not the only manuf using them. Several years ago, when "Schwintek bashing" started I rode through FT WILDERNESS and counted 15 different brands using them on all sizes of slideouts.
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07-20-2018, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy
JAYCO is not the only manuf using them. Several years ago, when "Schwintek bashing" started I rode through FT WILDERNESS and counted 15 different brands using them on all sizes of slideouts.
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Your right, other OEMs use Schwintek systems on lightweight slides. As for all sizes of slides that is the issue, Jayco designers use it in the wrong places. Your always on this site always and I bet it is #1 or #2 complainant on this site is Schwintek. The video if you watched it exposes the keyword “lightweight slides”. Not a 18’ slide with 4 recliners and a 21 cu ft Residental fridge. If it was appropriate why did it bend the outriggers? Why did the rollers underneath fail? Why did the whole slide fall out in the dealer shop?
The Schwintek part of the video starts @7 minutes in, he is a Jayco dealer and has a y tube channel full of RV nerd info.
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07-20-2018, 05:11 PM
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I have found few techs that were more than a little familiar with Schwintek. I watched the video and I agree with his assessment of the problems. It's not just one manufacturer per his narration but many who are overloading them.
I was not aware of the last one he mentioned that does handle heavy slides. All in all it was a very informative video of the 5 types of slides.
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07-20-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by norty1
I watched the video and I agree with his assessment of the problems. It's not just one manufacturer per his narration but many who are overloading them.
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Exactly my point......
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07-20-2018, 06:16 PM
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IMO, the biggest downside to a Schwintek (and "cable" type) slide is the use of plastic rollers underneath the slide to support the entire weight of the slide. The Schwintek mechanisms move the slide in and out of the trailer, but they do nothing to support the actual weight of the slide. These rollers (underneath the slide) are usually mounted on the very edge of the wooden floor---within inches of the outside wall of the trailer. Support for the wood floor underneath these rollers varies dramatically from trailer to trailer. I've seen anywhere from zero, to 2 to 3 metal outrigger supports underneath the wooden floor supporting a Schwintek slide. On smaller, lighter slides the lack of support may not be a big issue. However, on medium to larger slides this lack of support may rear its ugly head years later when the wooden floor starts to sag from the excess weight---causing all kinds of alignment problems with the Schwintek mechanism.
When we were looking at trailers last year we ruled out purchasing any trailer that didn't use rack and pinion slide mechanisms on any medium to large slide. With a rack and pinion slide mechanism, the entire weight of the slide is supported via two large steel beams that are inserted directly into the side of a trailer's steel frame---no wood involved.
IMO, a Schwintek mechanism is pushing its operational limits if the slide extends out more than 24", or if it has to support any human occupants or heavier appliances (especially fridges).
Lastly, rack and pinion slides typically have fore and aft, up and down, and in/out adjustment points to compensate for wear and tear. To my knowledge, no fore and aft or up/down adjustment exists for Schwintek (or "cable") slides---only in and out adjustments (or calibrations) are possible.
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07-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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I have 2 Schwintek slides and they work great. I've never had a problem with either one since new. I do have problems with my slimrack slide in kitchen and rack slide in dinette. Both are broke at this time.
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07-21-2018, 03:31 PM
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Is this a Schwintek? If it is, I've been very happy with it. I've only put it to use as new purchase this past winter though.
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08-22-2021, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stateboy
Is this a Schwintek? If it is, I've been very happy with it. I've only put it to use as new purchase this past winter though. Attachment 42197
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That is not a Schwintek slide. I can't tell from the pic what it isl
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08-22-2021, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loboclone
Found this very interesting https://youtu.be/JEN5gYf4lQ8
This dealer sells Jayco as well as many other OEM’s. Listen carefully to what is said concerning Schwintek vs other slide designs.
It is no secret that techs hate it.
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So far I like how my slides go in and out, when I had my 2019 Jayco motorhome I hated how the bottom moved different from the top I thought something was wrong with it. My new one goes out evenly and no problems
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08-27-2021, 11:15 AM
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I am in the middle of my second all out failure with my 2017 seismic slide, I had the first one repaired at a dealer ( non Jayco) and it lasted a year, this failure I wanted to have a Jayco dealer work on it thinking they maybe were more knowledgeable about the workings, I called the Jayco dealer closest to where I live and they refused to work on it, pretty poor I thought, I have since torn it apart myself and am waiting on parts, once parts are here I am going to take measurements and construct some steel rollers and other heavier parts where I can, pretty poor design and pretty sad engineering when I have to start trying to design a better slide system, I do guarantee when I am done it will work at least better than from the factory.
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08-27-2021, 12:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stateboy
Is this a Schwintek? If it is, I've been very happy with it. I've only put it to use as new purchase this past winter though. Attachment 42197
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It appears to be a through frame slide mechanism,
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08-27-2021, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stateboy
Is this a Schwintek? If it is, I've been very happy with it. I've only put it to use as new purchase this past winter though. Attachment 42197
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Lippert makes Schwintek. This looks like the Lippert (LCI) rack and pinion motor.
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08-27-2021, 12:44 PM
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Norty1 and AKRUEBBE here's a better shot.
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08-27-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stateboy
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What TWP723 said............
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08-27-2021, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AKRUEBBE
What TWP723 said............
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Thanks!
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