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Old 12-10-2014, 09:24 PM   #11
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My wife would agree. We didn't buy a X brand TT just because the kitchen and another because because of not being able to walk around the bed. But I think even a man could see a some of these newer floor plan are not friendly.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:46 PM   #12
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There is a lot to be said for the integrity of that box you are pulling down the road when you place full length cabinetry across the top and bottom in the front and rear. Additional cabinets and dinettes along the walls midway through the vehicle help to keep them square and ridgid. It would probably loosen up and fall apart quickly from bouncing down the road without all the gusseting!
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:44 PM   #13
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Clearly, RV manufacturers only hire male designers. No woman would cram the top of a mattress between two walls/tables. All those floor plan geniuses should be required to change sheets on every mattress in their inventory.
LOL...LOL.. It's funny that you brought that up, cause I told the wife the exact same thing when we were looking for our new rig.
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LOL...LOL.. It's funny that you brought that up, cause I told the wife the exact same thing when we were looking for our new rig.
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Old 12-11-2014, 07:19 PM   #15
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I am convinced that whoever is designing these things does not use them. If they did many things would have been done differently. I really don't think Jayco (or any of the manufacturers) pay much attention to customer suggestions. It's all done by sales statistics and the bean counters.
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I am convinced that whoever is designing these things does not use them. If they did many things would have been done differently. I really don't think Jayco (or any of the manufacturers) pay much attention to customer suggestions. It's all done by sales statistics and the bean counters.
I have to disagree with you a little bit tn. If good sales statistics are the result of poor designs, it would stand to reason that good designs would increase sales? IMHO the RV industry is still evolving and while some issues seem to be obvious, the industry does gets better every year....IMHO
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:09 PM   #17
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I have to disagree with you a little bit tn. If good sales statistics are the result of poor designs, it would stand to reason that good designs would increase sales? IMHO the RV industry is evolving and while some issues seem to be obvious, the industry does gets better every year....IMHO
So then, this is possibly a ploy to get us to buy what is currently the best of what is available of the "not so friendly" RV Layouts ! Ah Ca-rumba !
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I have to disagree with you a little bit tn. If good sales statistics are the result of poor designs, it would stand to reason that good designs would increase sales? IMHO the RV industry is still evolving and while some issues seem to be obvious, the industry does gets better every year....IMHO
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, and I think I'm agreeing, so excuse me if I'm off base here. But Wally World is the world's largest purveyor of unadulterated crap, and their sales revenue beats every other company in the world. And they're having a bad year!

So would raising quality decrease their bottom line? Probably.
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If every purchaser made their rv decision based on quality design and workmanship instead of price we would see the quality and design improve, but the cost would also go up. My experience and from what I have learned on this site is what I based my Eagle purchase on. I have been happy with the result, thus far.
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If every purchaser made their rv decision based on quality design and workmanship instead of price we would see the quality and design improve, but the cost would also go up.
Absolutely true. And that's just fine. Of course, not everyone would put quality over price. Yugos and Rolls Royces.

Apparently, RV manufacturers don't have enough volume to allow much choice in product components. Look through a cheapo camper, a mid-priced one and a fairly high end unit. Lots of interchangeables in there. But we can ask that the nuts and bolts are snug!
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