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Old 09-11-2014, 08:52 AM   #1
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Surge Protector/EMS Need

I have, as have others on this forum and other forums, posted my feelings concerning having at least a surge protector and better yet a EMS system while hooked up to ANY shore power including power at our homes. Some responses to this position have been "I have been RV'ing for 20 years and never had a problem" and I'm sure this is correct, but it only takes once.

Yesterday morning at the park where I am hosting our power system on one circuit had a bit of a problem, it lost the neutral. Immediately this sent 240 volts through the circuit to all on this particular circuit. My EMS system shut me down immediately - no damage done. One other RV on this circuit didn't have any protection. He lost, as far as he knows right now: inverter, two a/c's, one television, and more is being analyzed today. I don't know the types/brands of protection several others had, but they all had something as they didn't have any damage either.

The park had an electrician come in to analyze and fix the problem and all was back to normal in a few hours, except for the unlucky guy who had been gambling for 20 years. He is on an extended vacation with his family and they are currently in a motel while his RV is being worked on and their vacation is on hold. Who knows how long.

I never hook up without my EMS - not EVER.
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I have, as have others on this forum and other forums, posted my feelings concerning having at least a surge protector and better yet a EMS system while hooked up to ANY shore power including power at our homes.

I never hook up without my EMS - not EVER.
I'm with you 100% on this one I had one scare in the beginning and it made me a believer.
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Any suggestions/recommendations on particluar models?
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Was this at St. Andrews Ed?
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Not saying one isn't important but in this particular case the guy that gambled for 20 years is getting new A/C units,converter and a TV courtesy of the Campground
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Any suggestions/recommendations on particluar models?
I have the Progressive Industries EMS-LCHW30 (hard wired).

My install:https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/sh...llation&page=3

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snip......but in this particular case the guy that gambled for 20 years is getting new A/C units,converter and a TV courtesy of the Campground
I can't comment on the CG in question, but depending on the CG I've seen statements that remove them from being responsible for electrical damage. As an example here is one exclusion from Pine Lake Campground and RV Park:

"The Park assumes NO responsibility for any damage to customer electric devices, appliances, converters, etc. used in the campground. We suggest that you use “surge protection devices” on all electronic equipment."

Source: http://pinelakepark.com/Site/Menus_D...ons%202009.pdf

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If I remember correctly, Ed was/is a host at St. Andrews State Park. Why I was asking.
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Yesterday morning at the park where I am hosting our power system on one circuit had a bit of a problem, it lost the neutral. Immediately this sent 240 volts through the circuit to all on this particular circuit.
I guess I'm just skeptical. If I am hooked up to a 120 volts source, that consists of a neutral and one side of the 220, How do I get 220 in my 120 volt system? I could understand it if the other side of the 220 came in contact with the neutral, but electrically I don't see how losing the neutral has any effect except losing power to the system. Can someone explain this?
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While the park may have posted the standard, innocuous "Not resposnsible" warning, these, as a rule, hold no water in the legal world. So, either the insurance company, or his lawyer will be seeking reimburement for damages paid if it's confirmed that the surge was caused by negligence on the part of the park! And, if he had replacement cost on his RV policy, he is indeed getting all new appliances, wiring, etc. for the cost of his deductbile!
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