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Old 01-27-2016, 05:59 PM   #1
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Tire help needed

Ok so after talking to my dealer today I am even more confused. We bought a brand new x17z in July we went on 6 trips putting about 500 miles on the trailer. As we prepare for our 1400 mile trip to the fort I have been doing some checking and I feel my tires are not the right ones for my rig. My factory delivered weight with propane is 3047lbs. they say my trailer has a 3500lbs. max. weight. A full tank of water adds about 240lbs. This leaves me with +\- 200 for cargo. When I check my tires they are rated on single axle like ours for 1610lbs. So this means I have tires rated for 3220lbs. on a 3500lbs axle. When I questioned the dealer his answer was this.... 3200lbs. on the tires 10% tongue weight there's your 3500 capacity so nothing to worry about. Sorry for all the numbers but I hope you guys can help me should I press for a better answer? should I go directly to jayco? Bite the bullet and upgrade rims and tires? We bought this HTT with hopes of traveling long trips now I am fearful that we are driving a time bomb.
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Old 01-27-2016, 06:09 PM   #2
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I'm not going to say it's right, but the numbers work for the max vehicle weight. They get it to the max number of the trailer and don't worry about tires matching springs matching axles.

I doubt you'll get anywhere with the dealer. Even if you do, you'll still get the cheapest thing they can find, and you probably don't want them.

I'd look to see if you can find tires with a higher rating and put them on. Shouldn't need to worry about wheels. Those should have a capacity higher than what you need, but I think would be stamped on the back.
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Old 01-27-2016, 06:14 PM   #3
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That's how they fit tires to trailers, by cutting it as close as they possibly can. The dealer was pretty much telling you how it is. Just for peace of mind, it would be a good idea to go ahead and upgrade your tires to a size with greater capacity. For instance if you have load range "C" tires, buy a pair of load range "D" tires, which would have greater carrying capacity. Just make sure your rims are designed to handle the higher pressure the upgraded tires require. And it's best to run the max pressure printed on the tire sidewall, even if it's more than the trailer sticker recommends.
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That's exactly how the axle/tire weight carrying capacity is calculated. The tongue/hitch weight is subtracted from the total.

Not saying it is right, but that is how it's done.
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You should have 12 to 15 percent of the load on the tongue, so not all the weight is on the tires.

They do not put the best tires on any brand camper.

I have the same tires as yours and have probably 10K miles on them. I do have to replace them this spring. They tend to weather check, before wearing the tread off.

If it was me I would use them for a while, and upgrade to 14" rims and up size to a D rated tire. By the way it is hard to find higher rated tires for 13" rims. I found one, and now cannot locate it.

I also would not haul a lot of water. It adds a lot of weight. I would determine where water is located near my destination. Fill the tank there, if you want filtered water buy a Rv filter, or make a nice one out of hardware store components.
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Old 01-27-2016, 06:27 PM   #6
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Many of us have pondered this equation where the weight rating of the tires does not equal the GVWR of the trailer due to the assumption that X amount of lbs will be on the tongue. I for one think the tires/axles weight rating should at minimum equal GVWR and better yet exceed it for a margin of safety. So after experiencing a blowout I upgraded to Maxxis ST tires and went up a load range as others suggested.
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When I had the single axle trailer I thought the same thing so before I left on my long trip last year I put higher load range tires. It was good piece of mind for me.

Now I purchased a new a double axle trailer and I feel a little better about the cheapo's for a little while longer.

Maybe get a few miles on them before swapping them out.

But I know I will swap them out also just a matter of how soon.
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When I had the single axle trailer I thought the same thing so before I left on my long trip last year I put higher load range tires. It was good piece of mind for me.

Now I purchased a new a double axle trailer and I feel a little better about the cheapo's for a little while longer.

Maybe get a few miles on them before swapping them out.

But I know I will swap them out also just a matter of how soon.
What scares me on double axle trailers you have to death the tires, if I recall correctly by 20 percent.
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What scares me on double axle trailers you have to death the tires, if I recall correctly by 20 percent.
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