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07-31-2022, 04:44 PM
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weight distribution or not?
hi i just bought a jayco flight 174bh, 21 ft, 3500 fully loaded max. i am wondering if anyone knows for that size camper should i use the whole weight distribution kit or is just the swaybar good???? i am towing it with an suv 5000 tow capacity
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07-31-2022, 05:07 PM
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Get one, keeps you and others safe!!
Thought you were going to say I'm towing with a diesel dually, then no, not needed.
JMHO
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07-31-2022, 05:20 PM
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Congrats on the new Jayco! I would take a look at the Andersen No-Sway hitch. Lightweight, quiet, clean, and easy to hitch with excellent sway control. I used one on the previous 195RB which wasn't much bigger than the 174BH and it was a great hitch for the smaller trailer. .
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07-31-2022, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttavasc
Congrats on the new Jayco! I would take a look at the Andersen No-Sway hitch. Lightweight, quiet, clean, and easy to hitch with excellent sway control. I used one on the previous 195RB which wasn't much bigger than the 174BH and it was a great hitch for the smaller trailer. .
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Good advice here!
And, if you hurry, you can get free shipping!
https://andersenhitches.com
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07-31-2022, 06:16 PM
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X2 on the Andersen. Lightweight and great sway control. I don’t know what kind of SUV you have but your payload capacity is as important, or more so, as tow capacity. The Andersen likely will help you there.
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07-31-2022, 06:19 PM
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Congrats! Yes hands down you for sure need a weight distribution hitch. Anderson weight distribution hitches are really popular and do pretty well in most WD hitch reviews. Weigh Safe is second to only Propride (and Hensley) but admittedly the Weigh Safe might be more than you need. It might however allow you to open your rear hatch while connected though.
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07-31-2022, 06:33 PM
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X2 on the Andersen. Lightweight and great sway control.
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07-31-2022, 06:47 PM
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X4 or whatever number we are on now for recommending the Andersen for your application. In fact, I just recommended the same system for one of my in-law's that is towing an similar sized Forest River product with a Toyota Tacoma.
With that said, there are a few auto manufacturers that do not recommend the use of a weight distribution hitch with their vehicles. Please check your vehicle's owners manual to make sure before you purchase the system of your choice.
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07-31-2022, 09:08 PM
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I guess it is at least X5 by now. I went with the Andersen when I was planning on towing with an SUV (and did for a short while) because the big deal is payload. In most cases you are probably overweight to begin with, and if you add a 95 lb WDH it doesn't help much. The Andersen is 55 lbs. Now that I'm towing with an F150 the weight is less of a consideration, but I like just about everything about the Andersen except when I fail to get it straight before unhooking!
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07-31-2022, 10:57 PM
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This is a good recommendation for the newbie and welcome to JOF.
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08-01-2022, 08:03 AM
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What year is your trailer? The 2022 174BH has a GVWR of 4,150#.
Either way, I agree with the need for a WDH. Even a light toune weight may take enough weight off the front wheels to reduce steering control and stability.
https://www.jayco.com/rvs/travel-tra...t-slx-7/174bh/
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08-01-2022, 09:26 AM
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Welcome from Northern California!! Yes to WDH ! It will make towing a much more stress free experience and it will reduce the white knuckle situation’s that you will definitely have towing a TT.
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08-01-2022, 09:50 AM
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There is a downside to the Andersen
The set up is easy but putting it on and getting it off is a pain as the tongue jack has to be raised and lowered
twice each set up or take down and you have to watch the angle of each hitch up is the same as the last take down
In confined spaces this can be a PITA and if you have a hand crank jack more of a PITA
We towed our 195 over 120,000 miles with no WDH but had sway control That was a feature of Jayco in 2016
No longer offered as it fought with some auto brwking systems reaulting in bad outcomes
The nice thing about the Andersen is it is sway control
and WDH all in one without the hassle of bars
We do have it on our 212 QB
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08-01-2022, 10:34 AM
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Personally speaking, I wouldn't use a WDH with a lightweight trailer unless absolutely necessary. If you search on "bent frame" here or elsewhere related to TT's, almost all are related to having a WDH installed on a lightweight trailer frame, some of which are simply because of using too strong of a WDH and others are related to big dips in the road (or pulling in or out of some gas stations) along with using a WDH which puts a lot more stress on the TT's A frame than what would occur on a flat road or with a longer and heavier TT. Without a WDH, this concern of a large dip in the road bending the RV's A frame is not an issue. ~CA
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08-01-2022, 11:10 AM
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Welcome Aboard!
Per Jayco the GVWR is 4,150 pounds (fully loaded). https://www.jayco.com/uploads/rvs/br...ochure-2022.pd
What is your TV (Tow Vehicle)? What else is in your TV, Kids, toys, entertainment???? If you have something like a well equipped 1/2, a 3/4 or 1 ton TV I would say your fine, even though I use a WHD with my light 23B. Primary reason is for the sway control. If you have something like a traditional 1/2 ton or an SUV, I would strongly consider a WDH with built in sway control.
FYI on friction sway bars, they MUST be removed every time you back up, even a few feet.
Happy Camping
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08-01-2022, 11:18 AM
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Get the WDH with sway control. The way it'll drive will amaze you.
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08-01-2022, 11:59 AM
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I always have a simple answer to this question. If you are new, and you are asking the question, you need one. The few hundred dollars one might spend will more than make up for the lack of experience in pulling a trailer. You will be amazed a what wind can do traveling down the road and you will be grateful. We were told that we only needed one sway bar, but put in to. When I was "new" I never had to worry about the trailer being in the best "pulling position" possible.
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08-04-2022, 06:27 PM
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Be careful and make sure your SUV is compatible with a WDH. Some unibody suvs will not tolerate and may be damaged by WDH.
When towing with an SUV, a conventional — also known as a bumper pull — hitch will be the only hitch choice except for a few specialty options. I highly recommend that a weight-distribution hitch with sway control be used whenever possible. Many body-on-frame SUVs, including the Ford Expedition and Chevrolet Tahoe, will require a weight-distribution hitch in order to reach their maximum rated capacity. Some vehicles, generally SUVs with unibody frames, clearly state that a weight-distribution hitch should not be used as frame damage can occur. Check the vehicle owner’s manual for use of a weight-distribution hitch.
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08-06-2022, 12:26 PM
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Yes use a weight distribution hitch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsywanderer
hi i just bought a jayco flight 174bh, 21 ft, 3500 fully loaded max. i am wondering if anyone knows for that size camper should i use the whole weight distribution kit or is just the swaybar good???? i am towing it with an suv 5000 tow capacity
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By taking what you say your trailer is round off at 3500K!? You say your tow capacity is 5K! SUV. So That has to be a Ford Explorer, or Blazer, or such size (Not a Large SUV!Like Expidition or Suburban) So you are on the safety border line! Yes you need the weight distribution FOR SAFETY! Enjoy and drive wisely which i sure you will! But OTHERS won't you want as much control with what you have!
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08-06-2022, 12:48 PM
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you need to know your ball pin weight and axle weights to answer this question. 2 trips to the scale and you will have the data you need. front rear and trailer axles #s
you could have 200 lbs of pin weight or 1500lbs at 1500 you need a wd at 200 or won't help.
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