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Old 06-05-2016, 11:44 AM   #11
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well just remember the gate valve and size of pipe is easily visible ... the gate valve for black is 3 or 4 inches and grey is 1 1/2 to 2 inches diameter
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OK, I am knowingly taking this thread down a rabbit hole, but I can't help it.
I'm just amazed that you managed to fill a 39 gallon grey water tank with one shower and doing dishes just once.
Unless you almost always camp where there are sewer hookups, you should probably look into how to conserve water. Military showers are what many of us routinely do. You get just as clean and you use a minimal amount of water. With 2 people, we can normally go about 5 or more days without filling the GW tank and ours is just 30 gallons. We wash and rinse our dishes by putting a dishpan in the sink, and then we dump that into the toilet, since our BW tank rarely fills and the soapy water helps with making things more slippery in that tank.
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Thanks for the rabbit trail....we tend to waste more water than we should. Gotta remember to use he basin to rinse the dishes and then use it to flush.
Point taken. Thanks.

As for the valve handles, out last 5er didn't have the valves marked so I simple wrapped white electrical tape around the handle of the grey tank and left the black alone. The galley tank was way in the back of the coach and the valve was accessed way back under the slide so it was a no brainier. Never mistook the black and grey after the tape wrap.
Easy and cheap....
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well just remember the gate valve and size of pipe is easily visible ... the gate valve for black is 3 or 4 inches and grey is 1 1/2 to 2 inches diameter
Not our Jayco... Both are the same size
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Weird on all I have owned the grey was always a smaller line coming in to the dump valve
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My valves are marked on the side of trailer above the valve with a decal... seems weird not to have them marked either
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Ok Thanks everyone. I am now back with good internet and out of the woods. Lucky there was a dump site down the road from our camp. After looking at it, there were decals on the side of the trailer itself with the words " gray water" and "black water" side by side. The decals were a few feet ahead of the valves them selves. Both valves are 4" and both are black. In fact both tanks and pipes are also black. The gray water was on the left and black water on the right. I got a cap that has a garden hose adapter so i can drain gray water if i am in the woods or drain gray water in a tote to drain somewhere else if i am with out sewer. I am kinda looking at the totes that have wheels and handles, but a guy on youtube posted a video of the 7 gallon water jugs he spray painted and uses for his gray water. He fills the jugs and throws them in the back of his pickup and drains in the dump stations.

If i am without sewer, you guys are right on the military style showers. lol getting the kids to listen will be another thing. I would like to find a better spray nozzle for the outside shower. I saw a youtube video where a guy used a house kitchen sink sprayer and connected it to his outside shower and it had lots of pressure but had to make a makeshift adapter to make it work. With that, i think one could wash some dishes and the BBQ trays outside as well as clean shoes from mud better.

Thank you again everyone for your help.
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I saw a youtube video where a guy used a house kitchen sink sprayer and connected it to his outside shower and it had lots of pressure but had to make a makeshift adapter to make it work. With that, i think one could wash some dishes and the BBQ trays outside as well as clean shoes from mud better.

Thank you again everyone for your help.
Just go to Lowes and get one of these adapters. Screw it to the shower nozzle and attach a garden sprayer or another section of hose. BTW the mod is great for washing grill and also dogs because you can mix the water temperature.
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My TT has black and grey handles.
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Ok Thanks everyone. I am now back with good internet and out of the woods. Lucky there was a dump site down the road from our camp. After looking at it, there were decals on the side of the trailer itself with the words " gray water" and "black water" side by side. The decals were a few feet ahead of the valves them selves. Both valves are 4" and both are black. In fact both tanks and pipes are also black. The gray water was on the left and black water on the right. I got a cap that has a garden hose adapter so i can drain gray water if i am in the woods or drain gray water in a tote to drain somewhere else if i am with out sewer. I am kinda looking at the totes that have wheels and handles, but a guy on youtube posted a video of the 7 gallon water jugs he spray painted and uses for his gray water. He fills the jugs and throws them in the back of his pickup and drains in the dump stations.

If i am without sewer, you guys are right on the military style showers. lol getting the kids to listen will be another thing. I would like to find a better spray nozzle for the outside shower. I saw a youtube video where a guy used a house kitchen sink sprayer and connected it to his outside shower and it had lots of pressure but had to make a makeshift adapter to make it work. With that, i think one could wash some dishes and the BBQ trays outside as well as clean shoes from mud better.

Thank you again everyone for your help.
Some tips:
  • We camp in PA state parks that often only have electric hookups. In these cases we use the campground facilities for high-water usage activities such as real showers and dish washing.

  • Most campground discourages dumping grey water on the ground or washing dishes anywhere but in the approved sinks.

  • I had a 22 gallon tote for my last camper and it came in really handy.

  • We bought a shower head with an on/off switch so you can set the water temp once then turn the water on/off as needed.

  • ...you have an outdoor shower? Ours doesn't.

Anyway, good luck. I try to gently remind my wife whenever she says she's going to do dishes or really any time she's reaching for the faucet.
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