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Old 02-14-2011, 09:10 PM   #11
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The Dodge transmission problems ended with the 2003 model year. The newer 6 speed automatic, introduced in 2007.5 is very tough and is probably equal to the Allison.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:51 PM   #12
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Dodge does NOT require the expensive emissions fluid of Ford (and GM). Ford, my long-time favorite, has yet to find a viable replacement for the Navistar 7.3 since it tried the 6.0 in '03. .... if I were buying new, and I'm not, I just couldn't risk the money on this new engine until it has has several millions of miles experience.
Make sure read those articles mentioned in other posts and don't miss this key point quoted above. This emissions fluid is EXPENSIVE and must be factored into your cost/MPG calculation.

I have friends with the duromax tranny and they love it.

I will be in the market in a couple years (my 7.3 F250 has 255,000 basically trouble free miles). That cummins engine has always been a reliable hoss that Ford competed with when they had the 7.3. No more, Cummins now stands alone but is still very noisy.

If I were buying today I would love to have the cummins engine w/duromax transmission on a ford chasis and body! If you find one, please e-mail me ASAP! If I have to buy this year, it would be the dodge cummings and pray the body holds together.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:47 PM   #13
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I don't know. My Cummins seems pretty damm quiet for a diesel.

I don't get anywhere near the mpg that Mopar gets with my 2010 Ram, but mine is fully stock, with all the emissions stuff intact. Towing I average 9 to 10 mpg, worst was about 7 and best was about 12. Wind and hills have a big impact on mileage. With no load I get 16 if I drive fast and hard (fun) but can get about 20 if I drive like Grandma.

The emissions goes through a regeneration cycle to burn out the soot, accumulated in the particulate filter. Mileage and power both suffer when the regen is active, and it can last for 45 minutes or so at highway speeds. But usually it has great pulling power, no problems with hills or speed with towing.

I've heard rumors that some of the 2011 or 2012 Cummins Rams will get a boost in torque- from 600 ft pounds up to 800 or 850. You heard about that one Mopar?

I haven't had one problem with my Ram, and I've towed my TT about 8000 miles the last 2-1/2 months, plus another 4000 miles driving unloaded. Has a bit over 16000 on it right now.

Worst thing for the Cummins is driving easy and excessive idling. Causes soot buildup problems, among other things I hear. Work 'em hard, and they'll have few problems, in my humble opinion.

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I think it looks pretty nice, too.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:01 PM   #15
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The Duramax engine and Allison transmission are the best combo out there.....PERIOD! The new (2011) Duramax was the highest HP and torque on the road, until Ford re tuned theirs after the GM numbers were released. The engine is quiet and the tranny is second to NONE! The fully boxed frame is a solid platform to handle all the power! The ride is fantastic and the duallies can tow up to 21,000 lbs. The fuel economy has been improved 10% over the last generation of engine with power improvements. (397 HP & 765 torque compared to 360 HP & 665 torque on last generation engine.) I do not know how much the DEF fluid costs since I have not bought any yet but with the mileage improvements I cannot see this truck costing any more to operate than the pre 2011 models! FYI. My DEF tank is a hair over 5 gallons and, depending on amount of fuel used, should last 5000 miles. I do not dislike Fords and would NEVER own a Dodge but I would say GM fuel mileage is better than Ford and probably a little less than Dodge. Good luck in your choice but if you ask 100 people you will, more than likely, get 100 different answers!
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Just cheked and DEF fluid is about 1 dollar per gallon. That equals 1 dollar more per 1000 miles under normal driving conditions.
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As long as your Ford or Dodge has a Duramax Diesel and an Allison Transmission, take your pick. (In other words, get a Chevy or GMC) Bottom line, all three, Ford, Dodge and GM have outstanding selling points.....I think all the statistics and road/durability/towing tests give a slight edge to GM.
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REAL trucks have at LEAST 8 spark plugs. UH OH, I better hide now! Just kiddin guys. MY choice Chevy or the Dodge a close second. I have Too many friends with the Ford 6.0. Hope this new engine is much better. Like Av8arkie said, 100 people a hundred different answers.

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REAL trucks have at LEAST 8 spark plugs. UH OH, I better hide now! Just kiddin guys. MY choice Chevy or the Dodge a close second. I have Too many friends with the Ford 6.0. Hope this new engine is much better. Like Av8arkie said, 100 people a hundred different answers.

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http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...&products_id=5



A bit of fun... Did you know there "Was" a listing for spark plugs for the Ford Diesel at one time... (Misprinted parts book)
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