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Old 05-25-2011, 08:01 AM   #11
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FOCONOCO What I meant was, don't buy one of the Sienna that has been towing 5000lbs, yours would be a safe bet since you are trying to stay within the mfg's tow rating.
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we have only taken it out once this last weekend and the hitch was not set properly from the dealer on the way to the CG but after I adjusted it by moving the L bracket one hole and that seamed to make things much better! Just a word of warning it is noisy. I added some grease and it got much better.
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:24 PM   #13
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FOCONOCO What I meant was, don't buy one of the Sienna that has been towing 5000lbs, yours would be a safe bet since you are trying to stay within the mfg's tow rating.
Oh OK.....I was just checking b/c I was starting to read some sarcasm into it! Thanks!
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:43 PM   #14
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Sounds like you have a great plan inplace. One thing I would seriously consider is perhaps asking those people you know who are towing 5000 pounds about thier towing expierence. I'm not an expert on towing when it comes to the numbers, but if your plans are to stay local, no mountains etc, I might consider the larger RV mainly because in a few years when you do go to the tundra, those adorable little ones, will be larger and have friends they might want to bring along. At that point you will probably not only want a larger tt but need one. Then you will not only have a note on the new truck, but more than liklely on the new TT as well, cause you wont make out on the trade. I only know this, cause we went from a pop up to antigua made by starcraft 195ck..was a great unit, but when we got it our twins were 2, they are now just shy of 7 and we out grew that unit two years ago...and just traded it on saturday for a 28bhs..
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Thanks Andy! We had considered that, but thought it much safer to stay within our limits. We're planning to keep the van until it either falls apart or is too expensive to repair - bottom line is we would like to keep it for at least a year or two (or longer) after it's paid off. We are concerned that if we tow too heavy, it will put considerably more wear and tear on the vehicle, more so than what towing it's rating will do, thus decreasing it's longevity faster.

As for what I was saying about people towing near 5k with their Siennas. I don't know them personally. What I read was from other online forums. Some people were saying their minivans tow 5k incredibly well. That may be----on level ground. Where we live is fairly flat along the Front Range, but there are some great camping spots in the foothills (maybe 1000-1500 foot increase in elevation). Should we decide to camp in the foothills, which are thankfully right behind our house, I think we'll have our hands full with 3500 pounds - let alone 5000. The elevation that we MAY encounter, combined with having a marginal tow vehicle is what is limiting us to 3500. In all honesty, if we were only planning to tow a few times and then replace the tow vehicle, I would buy the larger trailer up front, or just wait until after we had a new TV, but we'll have to tow with the family truckster (National Lampoon Vacation reference there) for a while. Thank you for your insight, I do appreciate it very much.
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snip.......We are concerned that if we tow too heavy, it will put considerably more wear and tear on the vehicle, more so than what towing it's rating will do, thus decreasing it's longevity faster.....snip
Can't disagree with that logic, well said. There is also that little thing called "safety", some manufacture limits are established to reduce the potential for mechanical failure while in tow (not just for warranty issues).

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I just realized we have two threads running the same info.. but rather than move things around, I will just post a link to that thread for those that want to read more....
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I get your concern on the weights...when we bought our Antiuga, it was because the dealer said my wifes minivan would pull it. I borrowed a buddy's truck to pick it up and decided I did not want to risk the fam by pulling it with the van. bought a used expediton, and was confident on towing it with that, then wished I had the expedition first, cause I would have shopped differently for the camper. At any rate, you sound like you know what your doing, hope you make that decision soon, summers' here and you're all gonna love it!
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We are no longer owners of a Jayco, however we started out just like you. We had an '07 Sienna and purchased a 2011 17Z - famaily was myself, Wife and 3 boys (9, 6, & 5). The room was tight, however we managed and ended up having 6 great trips in the limited time we went from August to October. I did install the Airlift 1000 airbags to help with the rear sag (great install pic on www.siennachat.com/forum). I am almost positive we were at or just above the 3,500lb limit on most of our trips.

Unfortunately on our last trip as we were leaving the park my front tires couldn't get any traction up an incline on a dirt camp resort road (a road I had used once already when leaving). With needing to back the camper up and take an alternate road to leave I made the decision that it was time to upgrade the TV. We now have an '08 Tundra 5.7L V8 DC 4x4 with tow package rated for 10,300.

Again you will find many people that tow with their Sienna, some even more than the 17Z. It may have been my tires needing to be replaced and the weight I was towing. However it was well worth the limited time we had it.
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We are no longer owners of a Jayco, however we started out just like you. We had an '07 Sienna and purchased a 2011 17Z - famaily was myself, Wife and 3 boys (9, 6, & 5). The room was tight, however we managed and ended up having 6 great trips in the limited time we went from August to October. I did install the Airlift 1000 airbags to help with the rear sag (great install pic on www.siennachat.com/forum). I am almost positive we were at or just above the 3,500lb limit on most of our trips.

Unfortunately on our last trip as we were leaving the park my front tires couldn't get any traction up an incline on a dirt camp resort road (a road I had used once already when leaving). With needing to back the camper up and take an alternate road to leave I made the decision that it was time to upgrade the TV. We now have an '08 Tundra 5.7L V8 DC 4x4 with tow package rated for 10,300.

Again you will find many people that tow with their Sienna, some even more than the 17Z. It may have been my tires needing to be replaced and the weight I was towing. However it was well worth the limited time we had it.
Thanks for the firsthand knowledge. Every bit of info really does help. We've been looking at trucks again recently, but may end up with a Tacoma/Frontier sized truck instead of 1/2 ton. We know that even with a Taco/Fronty, we will be limited realistically to a 5,000 lb TT, but have found an abundance of TT's in that weight range. What we are going to do once we are able to purchase our TT is tow it locally-only with the Sienna. Once the last payment is made on the Sienna, we would end up buying a truck at that time, which may only be about a year, or maybe even less. In all likelihood, we would probably only tow with the Sienna for one camping season, before getting another truck (wishing I would have kept our 2007 Tacoma...GRRR). We simply can't afford two car payments at once (well, we could, but then would have no money for anything else). By the time the Sienna is paid off, it won't be worth a whole lot as a trade, so we'd prefer to keep it as long as practically possible. Once it's paid off, we can look into a truck, though. Speaking of tires, our Sienna is almost through it's second set of tires....that will have to wait until a bit later in the summer...these Yokohamas sure didn't last very long....
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