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Old 01-15-2013, 05:54 PM   #51
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You very well could be right, I have given up trying to understand all the physics of why it does what it does.

I friend of mine, who is a very talented engineer, gave me an explanation and demo once that began to make a lay person understand. It isn't something that I could even write and attempt to make sense. I do however recall it having a lot to do with the spring bars introducing longitundal force oppsed to the the straight up and down force created when the coupler is placed on the ball. Also, there was elements that had to do with the weight being dynamic while in transit. If I recall, he had calulations based on what happend to the force and weight on the hitch during exceleration and braking that was different than while idle.

At this point I hope someone can tell you what you are looking for...I simply shared what I learned from a source I trusted.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:20 PM   #52
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Hi Clubhouse,
just found this in my e-owners manual. What I find interesting by this statement is that the typical theoretically defined GVW of your TV is not how it's done with a WD hitch. Your measured hitch weight (bathroom scale or other method) will probably be 20 -25% higher then the load that is actually placed on the TV because of the effects of the WD hitch.

• Total weight must be distributed between the tow vehicle and the trailer such that the following four ratings are not exceeded:
1. GVWR
2. GTW
3. GAWR
4. Trailer tongue weight rating for the trailer hitch utilized (This requirement may limit the ability to always achieve the 10% to 15% range of tongue weight as a percentage of total trailer weight).

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You very well could be right, I have given up trying to understand all the physics of why it does what it does.

I friend of mine, who is a very talented engineer, gave me an explanation and demo once that began to make a lay person understand. It isn't something that I could even write and attempt to make sense. I do however recall it having a lot to do with the spring bars introducing longitundal force oppsed to the the straight up and down force created when the coupler is placed on the ball. Also, there was elements that had to do with the weight being dynamic while in transit. If I recall, he had calulations based on what happend to the force and weight on the hitch during exceleration and braking that was different than while idle.

At this point I hope someone can tell you what you are looking for...I simply shared what I learned from a source I trusted.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:27 PM   #53
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Thanks for the advise Bob, I would really like to pick you brain here.... snip
Ron,

I apparently missed your post, apologize for not responding earlier. It appears that you have answered most of your questions, and our mutual discussion at the following thread provided some additional detail: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...on-please-help

The yellow weight sticker represents the actual "ship weights" upon departing the Jayco factory, and as you sited include the weight of filled LP tanks....., but it should be noted the tanks don't get filled until arriving at the RV dealership. The RV dealership is required to attached another (revised) weight sticker if he adds more than 100lbs in options, reflecting the reduction in the TT's CCC.

Interesting how the actual "ship weights" in almost every case are higher than the published UVW weights that RV sales folks put in front of customers, and in some of the heavier TT's and FW's can add another 450lbs.

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Old 01-23-2013, 12:48 AM   #54
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:33 PM   #55
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Red face 2014 DSRE in my driveway

Just picked up a new 2014 White Hawk 30DSRE last week. The 2014's are called the Summit Edition. Think just some subtle changes from the previous model. Same floorplan and features. Timed it just right, got the 2013 price and got the 2014 model. Picked it up at the dealer near the Jayco plant in Middlebury In. Got a great price and had it built with just the options I wanted. Dealer is RVConnections. Time from PO to Pick-up was right at 6 weeks.

Pulled it home [450 miles] with no problems. Pulled smooth with our Silverado 1500. Just getting to know it. Its set up in the back yard. We're going to take our time loading it up. RVs are like houses and they pick up extra stuff the longer you own them. Had the last one for 6 years and want to purge the stuff we don't use. Weight on the White Hawk moves us closer to the limit on the TV so we have to be more careful. Only thing I had to do was buy a new tow bar for our Reese WD hitch. Needed 3 more inches of rise. Otherwise the transition to the new TT was a breese.
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Congrats on the new 2014.
I will be picking up my new 2013DSRE this Friday...can't wait.
Glad to hear that it towed well with your Silverado 1500, as that's what I have for a TV. I do have the HD trailering package on my TV, but after reading everything in the forums I was worried that I might have to invest in a new TV. I had already started talking the Mrs. into the 2500HD Silverado. Now it might be that I don't need to spend the extra money...leaving more money for camping.
Thanks for your post. I hope you enjoy your new TT.
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Only saw the 2013 once but now starting to understand that there are some changes to the 2014 that are more than subtle. One is a taller internal ceiling and arched roof. We ordered ours with the fireplace RE, free standing table/chairs, and the fold out couch. Our old TT had a traditional bench/bed table and the jackknife type couch. The new options are a little pricey but well worth the $$. The layout of this model is perfect for our [wife and I] application. Have started to spend a month or more traveling and vegging in Fla during the winter. Wanted more creature comfort space than our 06 Keystone. Found everything we were looking for and more in this TT. Looked at fifth wheels but everything was too heavy for our 1500 and chevy doesn't want you towing a 5thW with a crewcab short bed. Really glad to have lucked into the 2014 upgrades.
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Just ordered a 30DSRE from factory. Got every option available. Super excited. Have a toy hauler right now but wife says does not have enough swag (too utilitarian for her). Thats fine, I usually put my quad in the bed of my truck. My only worry is using it in some of our state parks. We are members of thousand trails so its still all good.
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Have never been able to get any info about adjusting the brakes. Manual on my 30dsre says at 3000 [also after first hundred miles]. Anxious to hear from fellow White Hawk owners on how to adjust the brakes.
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Hi Bassdogs,

If you go back to post #40 I have included links to videos that describe how to adjust the brakes and grease the bearings on the 30DSRE.

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Have never been able to get any info about adjusting the brakes. Manual on my 30dsre says at 3000 [also after first hundred miles]. Anxious to hear from fellow White Hawk owners on how to adjust the brakes.
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