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Old 12-14-2010, 11:24 AM   #11
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Welcome to the Jayco Owners Forum Gkconfer! Another thought on that tt/tv combo.... will you be on flatlands or will you hit hills/mountains. Will the braking system hold up when you need it? Your tv may bog down big time on grades, and you may wind up white-knuckling it down the other side. Is there any chance you can get a lighter tt that you could be happy with, or possibly purchase a tv with a higher tow capacity? Glad you could find this forum; lotsa folks with different experiences to share and other thing to consider when buying an rv... Sales staff at dealerships have a way of convincing folks that there tv can tow a tt based on drywieght. Happy shopping, and let us know what ya wind up doing!
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:56 AM   #12
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Hi Gkconfer,

Welcome to this great forum. I am a fresh newbie as well.
If i can give you my 10c to the subject, and i don't mean to discourage you by any means, i think you will have a hard time with the Tacoma. I am concerned about the transmission... The dealer will tell you whatever you want to hear (for the most part).
I hate to say this but i agree with Cciparts opinion as well that in a year, you'd be looking for a new truck.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:42 PM   #13
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate your comments, and I am rethinking the entire purchase. I really like the Jayco 26BH floorplan but not at the expense of TV, life and limb. Unfortunately, a new TV is not in my future.

My research indicates that Jayco offers quality products, but I will probably need to look at other manufacturers since I can't find a Jayco tt around 3000#s dry weight that suits our needs. The Forest River Rockwood Mini-lite 2306 looks promising, is smaller, weighs about 3000#s unloaded. Does anyone have any experience with Forest River tts, and do you what do you think about the Tacoma's ability to handle a tt of that weight? Thanks again for your help. If I hadn't stumbled onto the good folks on this site, I would now be the owner of a tt that, in all probablility, I couldn't tow. Any suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-14-2010, 04:28 PM   #14
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Payload capacity is as important as towing capacity and the two do not interact.. Your owners manual will give you that info. That number will include the weight of a full fuel tank and maybe a driver, but I'm not sure about that. Add the weight of all passengers, any gear you may have in the cab abd also anything you may be carrying in the bed. Add the hitch weight of the trailer keeping in mind that number is going to go up as you store stuff in the pass-through. It's best to go to a scale, but I think Jayco represents their trailer weights and hitch weights reasonably well. Their dry weight includes full propane tanks, but nothing else. Crunch the numbers and I'm betting you will be overweight for the Tacoma. I also think you'll be underpowered with the V-6. I towed my 22FB with a V6 4Runner and it really struggled in spite of the trailer being within the tow limits. I didn't have a tow package in the 4Runner, but that would not have affected the towing charateristics of the vehicle. One trip was enough to make me trade it on a Tundra. I bought the 4.6L and now wish I had bought the 5.7L. When I upgrade the truck and trailer, I will go to that. If you stay on level terrain, you may be OK, but I can tell you, When you're crossing the Colorado Rockies on I-70, there is no substitute for cubic inches and horsepower. Good Luck & Happy Camping.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:58 PM   #15
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate your comments, and I am rethinking the entire purchase. I really like the Jayco 26BH floorplan but not at the expense of TV, life and limb. Unfortunately, a new TV is not in my future.

My research indicates that Jayco offers quality products, but I will probably need to look at other manufacturers since I can't find a Jayco tt around 3000#s dry weight that suits our needs. The Forest River Rockwood Mini-lite 2306 looks promising, is smaller, weighs about 3000#s unloaded. Does anyone have any experience with Forest River tts, and do you what do you think about the Tacoma's ability to handle a tt of that weight? Thanks again for your help. If I hadn't stumbled onto the good folks on this site, I would now be the owner of a tt that, in all probablility, I couldn't tow. Any suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated.

Greg in PA
Have you considered one of the Jayco/Starcraft Hybrids? I don't what you need as far as sleeping capacity, but something like the X18D will give you three pop out beds without cutting into the floorspace at all. Plus the GVW is 4400 lbs, well within the Tacoma's limit. We have the Starcraft twin of the X17C which suits us fine because there's only two of us. We tow it with a 2010 Toyota 4Runner and it pulls great.
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:31 AM   #16
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Gkconfer - I live 5 minutes from Spring Creek in Central PA and fish it every chance I get, nothing better than a native brown trout on a dry fly. I have a 2010 G2 31BHDS that is on a permanent site between Waterville and Little Pine Creek State Park. It is on private ground with only one other permanent site, my little piece of heaven. I don't fish Penns to much, it is a hard stream to figure out except when the Green Drakes are on, just have to hit it at the right time. When at the RV I normal fish Little Pine, both above and below the dam. Big Pine Creek is a mile away but alot of water to fish.
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I know Big Pine well, having fished it since 1985. I have never fished Little Pine, having more interest in exploring Slate Run, particularly the seven mile camp area. Love it for its remoteless and wild trout. I just recently started fishing Penns Creek. You are correct....Penns is difficult to decipher and, perhaps, is the most difficult stream I've ever fished...that includes streams in Montana, Wyoming and California. That's why I'll be heading back to Penns come April. Sorry for turning this thread into a flyfishing thread. Thanks again for the insight.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:09 AM   #18
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Have you considered one of the Jayco/Starcraft Hybrids? We have the Starcraft twin of the X17C which suits us fine because there's only two of us. We tow it with a 2010 Toyota 4Runner and it pulls great.
Interesting. The Jayco 26bh weighs 4725 unloaded. The Hybrid you reference weighs only 300lbs less. Is that 4400lbs loaded or dry weight? And does your 4Runner have a V6 or a V8? Also, I'm curious to know if you travel cross country or keep your trips close to home. I plan to travel far and wide and have been warned on this site, and a Toyota Tacoma forum, that I'm asking for problems if I try to pull a tt in the previously mentioned weight range. I'm taking the warnings very seriously. Unfortunately, the dealers that I've talked with have all assured me that 26bh should be no problem for my Tacoma. Imagine that!

My wife and I love the floorplan of the 26bh, but are now seriously considering a Mini-Lite model in the 3000lb range. We want to be safe and enjoy the experience,but have ruled out the hybrid. Thanks for your help.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:43 AM   #19
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Interesting. The Jayco 26bh weighs 4725 unloaded. The Hybrid you reference weighs only 300lbs less. Is that 4400lbs loaded or dry weight? And does your 4Runner have a V6 or a V8? Also, I'm curious to know if you travel cross country or keep your trips close to home. I plan to travel far and wide and have been warned on this site, and a Toyota Tacoma forum, that I'm asking for problems if I try to pull a tt in the previously mentioned weight range. I'm taking the warnings very seriously. Unfortunately, the dealers that I've talked with have all assured me that 26bh should be no problem for my Tacoma. Imagine that!

My wife and I love the floorplan of the 26bh, but are now seriously considering a Mini-Lite model in the 3000lb range. We want to be safe and enjoy the experience,but have ruled out the hybrid. Thanks for your help.
Another suggestion is to go to the dealer, have them hitch the TT to your Tacoma and let you take it for a ride. A lot of dealers do this (mine did at least). I would drive it at least 20 miles on the highway and a hilly road. I suggest a weight distribution unit especially if you want to travel far. That will add to the overall weight but will make your life on the road so much easier. My concern again is that you will run into problems pulling that particular TT with a Tacoma... I really hope i am wrong as Jayco's are awesome units. I could simply tell about their popularity when i took a look at my storage lot, 3 out of 5 were Jayco models....
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:57 PM   #20
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You are right to reconsider your purchase even though I love my Jayco. I have been camping for 25 years and know from experience that the wrong TV can ruin a trip. I live in PA as well; its not the big hills you need to worry about, its the long ones that kill a TV. Don't trust RV dealers for the most part, they lie to make a sale. While you may technically be within your weight limit you also need to worry about stopping and handling. The weight of a full size trailer can easily push a light weight TV through a red light in a light rain...learned that the hard way. The tail will also wag the dog on a windy day. Do yourself a favor and allow for plenty of difference between tow capacity and trailer weight. Good luck with whatever you purchase.
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