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Old 12-12-2011, 10:56 PM   #11
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Piece of cake compared to spraying one on.
Check out these videos. Some can be dangerous to remove or even live with.

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Old 12-13-2011, 03:19 AM   #12
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Check out these videos. Some can be dangerous to remove or even live with.

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Believe me, putting the...ah...stuff.. up is a lot messier! The idiot builders that built the house I once had didn't put any insulation in the cathedral ceilings at one end of the house. After covering the walls and floors with plastic, I ripped out the sheet rock then furred out the existing 2x8 rafters with 2x3s so I would have room for R30 glass (that was a chore and a half!). After the glass was in, a neighbor helped me wrestle up 4x8 sheets of 5/8" sheetrock and nail it off. Even though it meant more joints to mud, we went with the 4x8 sheets because that was all we could handle. There is no way I could do that job now (this was in the late seventies, early eighties; I was a lot younger, and stupider, back then).

Once I had all the joints and nail heads taped and mudded (that was a little messy), the fun part began. I had a compressor I built from an old 60 gl propane tank, a three cylinder refrigeration compressor, a 10 HP B&S engine, and a dramatically cut down mobile home axle (everything scrounged or bought on the cheap from scrap yards) so I had plenty of air. I rented a pattern gun to spray the popcorn. That was a job I never, EVER, want to do again. No matter how careful I was, that...ah...stuff went everywhere, including on me. Fortunately, I had anticipated it was going to be a bit messy (I just didnt realize how messy) and wore the appropriate clothing. My Daddy helped me with that job, running the compressor and mixing up popcorn, staying safely out of range (smart man!), and laughing himself silly because I was covered in the...uh...stuff.

To add insult to injury, I had to put glitter on the ceilings (I had two rooms to do) so they would match the rest of the house (I would love to meet the bozo who came up with the idea of putting glitter on popcorn ceilings). There is a gizmo designed to puff that stuff onto the ceiling, using a hand crank, but I was on a shoestring budget (a very frayed and knotted one) so the rental guy suggest using the pattern gun. I would waste more glitter but it would be way cheaper than renting the gizmo. So, after I finished spraying popcorn on the ceiling, walls, floor, and me (fortunately, the ceiling got most of of it; I came in second), Daddy and I dried out the pattern gun, loaded it up with glitter, and I went after it. Again, the ceiling got most of it and I came in second. I didn't know if my Daddy was going to die first from laughing at me or from me strangling him. The man was on the ground holding his stomach while the tears were pouring down his face.

Once Daddy was able to breathe again, I let him hose me down out in the alley (I'm thinkin' he enjoyed that way too much). We pulled the plastic on the walls down onto the plastic on the floor and kinda folded everything inward so all the glittery popcorn...stuff...was folded inside, dragged it out of the house, and to the dumpster in the alley. We actually were able to keep the mess contained in the plastic so I didn't have to clean anything up inside. The job came out quite well and one had to look hard to see the difference between new and old.

If I ever had to do something like that again, I would've burned the house down and let the insurance worry about it.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:55 AM   #13
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Wait till you try to paint it and the popcorn comes off on the roller
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snip...... To add insult to injury, I had to put glitter on the ceilings it......snip
Hmmm, glitter is "SHINY", I know I read somewhere......

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Wait till you try to paint it and the popcorn comes off on the roller
Please say you aren't speaking from experience?
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Hmmm, glitter is "SHINY", I know I read somewhere......

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Popcorn ceilings go up easy with the right equipment. Just a little plastic and tape and spray it on.

I really didn't like painting them after they turn yellow. They suck up paint like it was free and the roller gets bigger with every pass.

The sheetrock people like them because they don't have to do much of a job tapeing the ceiling. A little bit of spray covers up a lot of mistakes. Sheetrockers also like spraying on an orange peel effect on the walls. That too saves on working the seams and screw holes. I really prefer putting on a texture with a plastic bag or a small broom and a bucket of mud.
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I have put it up in my younger days. I had a sprayer made for the purpose that held a couple gallons of the mixture that hooked to a compressor. Messy and physically demanding work. I would never try it myself again for any money.
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A little update....,

Well, I tackled the "project" today. Removed the entire length of the existing flex duct, and replaced it with this 4" insulated duct from Home Depot......;



Ideally a smooth metal inner ID duct wrapped with insulation would be best for moving air, but I decided to go with the insulated flex duct for ease of installation.

Then I tackled the kitchen ceiling. The drywall itself was not damaged by the moisture, just a section of the seam tape needed to be replaced. So I cut/pealed out about 5ft of the existing tape, and 'mudded' in a new piece of tape.......;



Going to let it dry overnight...., then sand, throw on a final layer of mud, and a final sand (I hope).

Did I mention I hate working with drywall

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