Seismic 4113 leveling issues

[theracqueteer]

OK, missed the double negative.

[Barb&Randy]

So, we are loolking at a 4113. Has Jayco corrected the leveling issue? Are sensors and controllers covered on warranty?

[atlantaM3]

it is different now, since they switched to a hydraulic system starting in the 2020 model year. Prior versions had an electric system.

So this should not be a material issue for new units anymore.

[P25ct]

Originally Posted by atlantaM3

it is different now, since they switched to a hydraulic system starting in the 2020 model year. Prior versions had an electric system.

So this should not be a material issue for new units anymore.

And switched to rack slides for large or heavy slides (for the most part) getting away from Schwinteks on these big slides. If they only did that 7 years ago like everyone else...

[atlantaM3]

my 2018 has slimrack for the big slide. Still not super confident in it compared to hydro...

[Kmo]

Now that they changed to a hydraulic leveling set up do you think that or know of the company that sells a kit that is basically bolt and plug these new unit on ? i would like to see what a kit is worth and possibly do it to my Seismic this winter.

[atlantaM3]

I have thought about doing this myself. Not sure if the hassle will be worth the return though, just carrying a spare front jack with me at this point.

Bigfoot offers a system that seems workable, I like the fact that there a multiple pumps for the system- https://www.shop.thebigfootleveler.c...QEFA6-1630.htm

Whichever way you go, getting to the fronts jacks to replace with something other than OEM seems like a hassle.

[Kmo]

That looks like a nice unit, $3,680 US converts to $4,916.92 Can. a little pricey but if it works good I think its the way to go, I have fought to level my camper since I got it ( haven't tried the leveling it before pushing the button) but that's kinda why I bought the levelling system so I can hit the button and get a beer. I am going to take a better look at removing the old jack system and installing the new set up before ordering, I am also gonna talk with my local dealer to see what he thinks.

[Greg Blakeley]

Do you have hydraulic or electric jacks on it? As of 2020 Jayco has switched all their bigger 5th wheels over the hydraulic. If you have electric, good luck! I did find one trick though that was mentioned below which is retracting all jacks. This brings the nose right down to the ground, but it seems to work after that...assuming your trailer is already basically level. The electric jacks just aren't strong enough to lift the trailer and you always end up with frame twist.

If you have hydraulic jacks, again your trailer has to be close to level, if not, you can adjust with leveling blocks under the wheels or one of the front landing gear, depending on which is low. Then you may have to press the "retract all" button, which will only retract the rear 4 leveling jacks. Once it stops that process, hit auto level and it should go. Again, if the trailer is too far off, you will need to adjust with blocks.

Good luck!

[Kmo]

Yes mine is a 17 so it has electric jacks, Seismics never got hydraulics till 2020, this is why I am looking into switching it over, with speaking to my Jayco dealer he says that it can be done fairly easily but it will cost $ 5,000 canadian for the jacks and approx 2500 in labor.

[h3is3m2n]

I have a 2021 with hydraulic, leveling works fine through the manufacturers control panel in the basement, with Jaycommand and BMpro connected to control panel , I lose autolevel every time I tow somewhere. Everyone is pointing fingers at each other, so much fun....

[Seismic4113]

Have same issue.

[h3is3m2n]

Equalizer sent me a Bluetooth control panel, in the meantime, there was a software update recently that supposedly addresses 6 point leveling. I have a trip planned Saturday, I put the old control panel back in and I will advise of my findings.

On a side note, I have learned to hit retract all first any time I move the unit. The service techs told me to do that.

[Seismic4113]

Have same problem

[Seismic4113]

Call Equalizer Systems. I had same issue on my 21 4113. Derek there walked me through it to fix. Works great now

[h3is3m2n]

The biggest thing I have learned is to retract all every time, power on, retract all

[h3is3m2n]

Update - I need to disconnect battery to reset panel every time! I am frustrated