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Old 02-06-2019, 01:59 PM   #1
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ISO AWD Toad

Anyone getting ready to sell their tow car? We are thinking 4 wheel/AWD behind Precept 31 UL. Thank you.
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Careful with AWD. AFAIK, most AWD vehicles are not flat-towable.

My Jeep Grand Cherokee is flat towable because it is 4WD and has a true 2-speed transfer case that can be shifted into Neutral. The "lowest level" transfer case in the Grand Cherokee line does not have a low-range, and thus cannot attain true neutral, and thus cannot be towed 4-down.
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2014 and prior Honda CRV's are all wheel drive and flat towable and the second most popular vehicle to TOAD.
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We have a GMC Terrain and it along with its sister model the Equinox AWD and FWD are towable 4-down.
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:23 AM   #5
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Here's a link to Motorhome Magazine's "Dinghy Guides"

Downloadable Dinghy Towing Guides | MotorHome Magazine

It's a good "one-stop-shop" resource for finding out which vehicles are flat-towable.
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Careful with AWD. AFAIK, most AWD vehicles are not flat-towable.

My Jeep Grand Cherokee is flat towable because it is 4WD and has a true 2-speed transfer case that can be shifted into Neutral. The "lowest level" transfer case in the Grand Cherokee line does not have a low-range, and thus cannot attain true neutral, and thus cannot be towed 4-down.
We had a terrain and that we towed for about 5 years. $ to setup but was good, about 3800 lbs
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Check our Classifieds. There may be one already equipped to tow.
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We had a terrain and that we towed for about 5 years. $ to setup but was good, about 3800 lbs
Yeah, I'm about to drop some serious coin on making my Jeep towable. I'm fully capable of installing myself, so at least I'll save the cost of labor, and it'll be done the way I want it done with no hacking and a clean install.

The JGC comes in a bit heavier than a Terrain/Equinox, but it shouldn't be a problem. And I like the JGC better as a daily driver. That was the "compromise"; it's pulling DD duty FAR more than it's pulling Toad duty. So I needed a vehicle that I enjoyed driving every day AND could be flat towed. I almost gave up before I discovered that JGC was in my budget! Now I have a really comfortable vehicle for my family, it's a pretty darn capable off-road machine, it's downright luxurious by my standards, AND I can tow it behind the MH.

Everyone's decision matrix is different though. That's why the Dinghy guide is so useful.
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Yeah, I'm about to drop some serious coin on making my Jeep towable. I'm fully capable of installing myself, so at least I'll save the cost of labor, and it'll be done the way I want it done with no hacking and a clean install.



The JGC comes in a bit heavier than a Terrain/Equinox, but it shouldn't be a problem. And I like the JGC better as a daily driver. That was the "compromise"; it's pulling DD duty FAR more than it's pulling Toad duty. So I needed a vehicle that I enjoyed driving every day AND could be flat towed. I almost gave up before I discovered that JGC was in my budget! Now I have a really comfortable vehicle for my family, it's a pretty darn capable off-road machine, it's downright luxurious by my standards, AND I can tow it behind the MH.



Everyone's decision matrix is different though. That's why the Dinghy guide is so useful.
We did the same last summer on a new trailhead and we love it. Last I checked they still don't make the taillight/brake harness that runs from the input plg to the rear. I'm using a wireless light setup.
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We did the same last summer on a new trailhead and we love it. Last I checked they still don't make the taillight/brake harness that runs from the input plg to the rear. I'm using a wireless light setup.
That's Cherokee Trailhawk
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Yeah, I'm about to drop some serious coin on making my Jeep towable. I'm fully capable of installing myself, so at least I'll save the cost of labor, and it'll be done the way I want it done with no hacking and a clean install.

The JGC comes in a bit heavier than a Terrain/Equinox, but it shouldn't be a problem. And I like the JGC better as a daily driver. That was the "compromise"; it's pulling DD duty FAR more than it's pulling Toad duty. So I needed a vehicle that I enjoyed driving every day AND could be flat towed. I almost gave up before I discovered that JGC was in my budget! Now I have a really comfortable vehicle for my family, it's a pretty darn capable off-road machine, it's downright luxurious by my standards, AND I can tow it behind the MH.

Everyone's decision matrix is different though. That's why the Dinghy guide is so useful.
We had a Jeep Wrangler and it was fine as a toad. But i came to the same conclusion that I wanted a pleasant daily driver. Jgc does that. I installed the blue ox stuff myself and only needed a hand with the front fascia in taking off and putting on since it's bulky. Bought my jgc about 60% off sticker at one year old. It's the overland with air suspension which is pretty cool.
I finally found the integrated light setup so I just plug in at the grill no exterior lights.
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Agree. Just picked up a 2017 GC Limited for the same reasons.
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Jumping in on this topic late, I am researching to get rid of my dolly and tow flat. I have it narrowed down to a used 2015 or newer Jeep Cherokee or a used 2016 or newer Buick Envision.

I have read that 2018 and older Cherokee's suffer from "the death wobble",(not the 2019), when flat towing because of the electronic assist steering. Correct me if I am wrong but Jeep or 3rd party has addressed this with a wiring kit/device to stop this. However, I am also finding this part is no where to be found.

Any input on either veh would be appreciated.

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Jumping in on this topic late, I am researching to get rid of my dolly and tow flat. I have it narrowed down to a used 2015 or newer Jeep Cherokee or a used 2016 or newer Buick Envision.

I have read that 2018 and older Cherokee's suffer from "the death wobble",(not the 2019), when flat towing because of the electronic assist steering. Correct me if I am wrong but Jeep or 3rd party has addressed this with a wiring kit/device to stop this. However, I am also finding this part is no where to be found.

Any input on either veh would be appreciated.

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You are correct. The Jeep dealer can get the wiring kit and install it. Not sure if it's available elsewhere.
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:51 AM   #15
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We have q 2013 Durango AWD Crew edition that is flat towable. It has the 2spd transfer case. It's pretty heavy at 4900 pounds, but we really like the Durango as it also has a 7200 pound towing capacity.
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