I have search the treads for satellite hook up permanently on the roof and could not find any. I remember to seen some in past. I am looking to install a Winguard Carryout G3 on the roof of my 2017 Jayco Precept 35S. I was told that the wiring should already be pre installed and on the front tv, there is 2 satellite hook up available sat1 and sat2. I also check on the roof and there are no wires there or boxes or even marking where the satellite cable would be. Would be easy to install if the cable is already at a location on the roof, but if it need to be run in the wall, etc. i will leave this to the professional. Does anyone know or have install one of these themselves on this model. Thanks,
I got measurements from Jayco where the Sat prep wires are on the roof. I have also searched for someone that has done it before I go slicing open the roof. I roughly measured it and I did not find any soft spot in the membrane so I am assuming I need to cut structure to get the wires but I am not sure. I would rather know for sure before I butcher the roof. Did you get the location of the wires from Jayco? Mine are measurements from roof TV antennae. Something like 100" back from the centerline of the TV antennae and over 24". Those aren't the actual dimensions but that is an example. I just called the motorized division and gave them my VIN # and email address. If you do attempt this please do a write up.
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I have a Precept 31UL and received the schematic from Jayco also, but I'm terrified to drill in the location. If you are successful, let me know how it goes. I'm assuming we need to drill a 2 inch hole or something like that to access the cables. I can't find anything on the internet with instructions or examples.
Hi, I did sent a request to Jayco to get the measurement and info on where to mount the satellite. It took 2 days and I received a document called satellite prep location with all the complete measurement on where to mount and where the wires are already in the roof. All easy to read. This should make the installation easier has no need to run wires in the roof and wall to tv. All is already there.
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Hi, I did sent a request to Jayco to get the measurement and info on where to mount the satellite. It took 2 days and I received a document called satellite prep location with all the complete measurement on where to mount and where the wires are already in the roof. All easy to read. This should make the installation easier has no need to run wires in the roof and wall to tv. All is already there.
You may find that directly below the wire location is a ceiling light. That's how it was on our SENECA in 08. If that's the case you can drill a small pilot hole from below before drilling into the roof.
Although this is an old post, it's one of few I could find on this topic and there is so much bad and missing information on this I thought I'd post the real solution....at least for a 2020 Alante 31v.
Bottom-line make sure you have the right information for your year/model. Since I couldn't find any information that seemed to be correct for my model on the Internet, I did what I should done in the first place and wrote Jayco for the diagram showing the location of the Sat Prep wires. Thankfully I was being extremely careful before taking the plunge to cut into my roof. I received the diagram from Jayco within a day, which was good, but doing some preliminary measurements based on he document they sent just didn't add up. I then noticed the diagram was done in 2014. While it was possible nothing had changed between 2014 and 2020, I thought it was unlikely....so after waiting a week after writing back telling the tech rep I thought the diagram was incorrect for my model and not hearing a thing, I called Jayco and they looked it up and guess what, the guy had sent me, not one, but a two revision old document. It wasn't even close. Looking at the new one, which the latest date on it was 2018, I thought there was a good chance it was correct. The measurements made sense so I took the scary plunge and drilled a hole in my roof. Whew! The wires were right there where they were supposed to be. Enclosed is the schematic document for my model and I've enclosed a couple of pictures of what I've done so far, with one showing the antenna and air conditioner so you can see their relative relationship to the hole. There were a lot more cables than I was expecting, but at least the one I was after was there.
I'm actually not using the wires for a satellite. I'm using the primary satellite cable to feed my cell booster antenna signal into the cabinet with the sat outlets to hook up my Weboost. I'm also putting in a Tailgater but I'm not installing it permanently on the roof. I'm leaving it free to be moved around. I purchased the two receiver output model and I'm running one to my Sat hookup in the wet bay which will hook up the tuner in the kitchen using the detached gray coax that is behind the panel and I've also installed a coax entry into the rear of the coach by the tail light that feeds the second receiver cable to the bedroom TV. I've also put an HDMI splitter in with the receiver under the bedroom TV and run that out to my outdoor TV. You have to watch the same channel on both those TVs, and you have to change the channel for both in the bedroom, but for what we use the outdoor TV for this is not an issue.
Didn't see the schematic Jayco sent... i've uploaded mine which as you said is from 2014, but do the measurements look accurate compared to your 2018 version? Bill I would check to see if you have the cat6 cables in your 2020 31V behind the panel above the TV in the kitchen. A quick way to find it would be to pull the outside panel for the Fridge and see if you see them there. I did and when I got my signal cable schematic, it showed cat6 from the kitchen TV to each of the other TVs, so I put in an HDMI over cat6 switcher in the kitchen and can put dish wally output or my DVD player to any/all of the TVs. I have a pathway X2 which I keep portable and hook up to the wet bay. Lastly, a great place for a cellular router antenna in the 31v is above the microwave. The 45 degree panel can be removed and a hole drilled into the wall that goes behind the fridge and I mounted my antenna to the fridge vent.
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Didn't see the schematic Jayco sent... i've uploaded mine which as you said is from 2014, but do the measurements look accurate compared to your 2018 version? Bill I would check to see if you have the cat6 cables in your 2020 31V behind the panel above the TV in the kitchen. A quick way to find it would be to pull the outside panel for the Fridge and see if you see them there. I did and when I got my signal cable schematic, it showed cat6 from the kitchen TV to each of the other TVs, so I put in an HDMI over cat6 switcher in the kitchen and can put dish wally output or my DVD player to any/all of the TVs. I have a pathway X2 which I keep portable and hook up to the wet bay. Lastly, a great place for a cellular router antenna in the 31v is above the microwave. The 45 degree panel can be removed and a hole drilled into the wall that goes behind the fridge and I mounted my antenna to the fridge vent.
Hi Michael,
No Cat6 cables I can find. I've looked thoroughly. There is no Cat6 shown on the wiring diagram for mine either....but I've found no need for it either.
The measurements from the 2014 version of the Sat Prep diagram are completely wrong for my 2020. The 2018 version is correct that Jayco sent me the second time. I just looked at your prep diagram and the whole roof is a totally different layout and the measurements aren't even close to mine for the sat prep.
>>dish wally output or my DVD player to any/all of the TVs.
Yes, but they will all have to watch the same channel/DVD. My setup uses two Wally's so only the bedroom and outside TV have to watch the same channel. I have streaming media players on all three TV's so all can be showing different content.
>>Lastly, a great place for a cellular router antenna in the 31v is above the microwave.
I have a different setup. My cell booster antenna wire goes from my antenna mounted on the ladder to the sat prep grey coax and down to the output in the cabinet, then to the booster. I use a dedicated cell phone on Visible that is boosted and sent to a travel router(GL.iNet GL-AR750S-Ext Slate), which runs through a WireGuard VPN so I can use unlimited data. I have the router hardwired to my streaming media player and the rest of the coach gets great WiFi from the travel router for the other media players and computers/tablets/phones.
There certainly is no shortage of options depending on what you want to spend and what you're trying to achieve.
Thanks for your feedback.
I meant to add the correct diagram for mine and forgot. Here it is: 0091548_A_1_022318.pdf
The drawing now shows a Winegard prep and Satellite prep. So I want to install a Winegard satellite. Which should I use? What is the difference?
It also shows backer for both connections. What is the backer? A piece of plywood that I should use to mount the satellite. Any idea if it is wood or something else. And if wood what is the thickness?
Eventually I will get all the information I need to get this satellite on the roof.
I think it would help to know which model/trim this is. My guess would be that the winegard prep may be for Cellular/Wifi based on size of backer, whereas the Sat prep is going to be for the satellite winegard or other brand.
In terms of which satellite you should use would depend on which service (Dish/Direct) and whether you want stationary or in-motion satellite service, standard or high definition, etc... Hard to make a recommendation until requirements are known, but i think there's alot of good equipment out there.
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North Central Florida
2019 Entegra Vision 31V
Following the recommendations on this thread, I requested the Sat Prep drawing from Jayco. I received two different drawings, one dated May 17 and the other May 18. Each have different measurements.
Their drawings usually have some numbers from your VIN# on the drawing, in my case, 28G.
Not in my case, I looked. In any case I am concerned that their initial response included conflicting information. That fact alone raises concerns don't you think?
Crazy... I assume they asked for your VIN right? Should not be this difficult... ask them also for the wiring diagrams for signal schematic too...
Seems pretty straight forward to send the correct sat prep diagram given the VIN....
I did ask for the COAX wiring diagram also. Pretty useless for my needs. What I did was bought a network tester and tracked down all the coax myself. Figured I'd need to verify it anyway.
The piece that I did not understand is that where the Cable and Satellite hookups in the service bay are supposed to feed. The answer is that the Cable feed and the roof antenna feed are supposed to hook up to the powered jack in the media cabinet. After doing some research I learned that if the powered jack is ON then the signal is fed to the TV's via the coax. If the powered jack is OFF then the signal from the Cable feed in the service bay is fed to the tv's.
The satellite feed just terminates all by itself in the media cabinet and can then be hooked up to your Satellite Box. You can see the gray COAX in the lower right front of the media cabinet. I put the Sat Box in the cabinet next to the media cabinet to help with heat management.
What I've done is run HDMI from the media cabinet to each of the three TV's and use a multiplex splitter to distribute ROKU, Satellite, and an aux input as needed. The TV's each have there own DVD and receive TV via the COAX that came installed.
I have a 2018 Alante 31R. I am in the process of hooking my 6 year old Winegard Trav'ler i took off my old RV. Jayco sent the pre-wire diagram and I found the wires. See photo.
My problem is the data wire coming from out of the roof has a female end. The connection on my dish is female. Winegard says they can't help me, they don't make a male to male connector or whip. Anybody else have this issue?