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12-14-2019, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Full time in our RV
Posts: 118
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Sumo springs
Has anyone installed these on your Jayco CLS A and if so did they help with the sway or top heavy effect?
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12-15-2019, 12:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Junction City
Posts: 36
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I did look at the Sumo and Timbren Springs, but I am getting ready to install Air-Bags on my rear axel after hearing from other motorhome owners that were happy with theirs and being able to adjust for different loads and ride changes. I am going to order these from Etrailer Air Lift LoadLifter 5000 Ultimate Air Helper Springs with Internal Jounce Bumpers - Rear Axle Item # AL88344. JH
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12-15-2019, 01:56 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 24
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Hi dgantz
I purchased the Sumo springs (1500) and found they make a great difference when towing my new Eagle 330 TT. The ride when my Ram 2500 is not towing has not changed. I’d go for it, they are sure cheaper than airbags. I purchased through etrailer. They assisted me with correct model for what I needed.
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12-24-2019, 01:55 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Ft Myers Beach
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I installed Sumo Springs and what a difference(2018 Alante 26x) in ride. Added a rear track bar and that took sway out. upgraded shocks and this thing rides like a cadillac. Was worth the money, rarely get pushed when a Tractor Trailor goes by, and no more sucking me over to the left lane when tail end of T Trailor goes by. I have also put sound proof on doghouse and in front wheel wells, we can talk in normal tones now when driving
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12-24-2019, 09:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Full time in our RV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokie
I installed Sumo Springs and what a difference(2018 Alante 26x) in ride. Added a rear track bar and that took sway out. upgraded shocks and this thing rides like a cadillac. Was worth the money, rarely get pushed when a Tractor Trailor goes by, and no more sucking me over to the left lane when tail end of T Trailor goes by. I have also put sound proof on doghouse and in front wheel wells, we can talk in normal tones now when driving
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They came in the mail and waiting to be installed after the holidays.
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12-25-2019, 03:08 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Lakewood, WA.
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Great, don't forget to post some pics of your setup.
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2023 Jayco North Point 310RLTS
2022 GMC Denali Ultimate DRW
Retired Army MSG
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12-26-2019, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fortuna Foothills
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If you have sway then you need added or larger sway bars. All Sumo's are are urethane bump stops.
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12-26-2019, 11:09 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Ft Myers Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicr
If you have sway then you need added or larger sway bars. All Sumo's are are urethane bump stops.
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If your getting pushed to the right when a tractor trailer passes, then sucked to the left as the rear of the trailer part of a tractor trailer passes you, you need a rear track bar as a sway bar won't take care of it. The rear end flexes on the road in such a case as above, therefore the track bar will stabilize the rear end. In regards to sumo's, you will notice a big difference with regards to ride an handling
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01-05-2020, 11:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Orange
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I have them on all four corners of the coach. I did them last after I added rear leaf springs, Koni shocks, super steer rear track bar, anti sway bars and Roadmaster steering stabilzer. They absolutely made a big difference.
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Jayco Asante 31V
2012 Jeep Rubicon/SMI Stay-IN-Play DUO Braking/Roadmaster BlackHawk 2 All-Terrain tow bar
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01-13-2020, 01:10 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Cinnaminson, NJ
Posts: 95
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I have a 31R and I use Sumo springs up front and timbrens in the back. I feel like it helped the ride a lot. I never really felt that I had a sway (back and forth) issues, but I did feel a lot of "push" from large passing vehicles and heavy cross-winds. The Sumo/Timbren combo made huge improvements in that area.
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Charles Fisher
2018 Jayco Alante 31R
2016 Chevy Traverse (Toad)
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01-28-2020, 12:02 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Tucson
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Jayco 2020 31v Alante
We just purchased the Jayco 2020 Allante 31V. I’m not sure what they mean by J ride but whatever it is we don’t have it. This motorhome sways and rolls from side to side horribly. It is dangerous and frightening to drive. What do we need to do in order to stop this from happening. We have been reading it the blog and we are not sure what will work best. We are disappointed that we are going to have to invest quite a bit of money to make this motorcoach handled correctly.
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01-28-2020, 01:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: midwest
Posts: 1,211
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it is to bad you didn't test drive it... if it is only 3 days old you can take it back... and try that.. if over 3 days then you are well... it is sad that they still sell these with these problems...
Good luck!
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01-28-2020, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fortuna Foothills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmarana3
We just purchased the Jayco 2020 Allante 31V. I’m not sure what they mean by J ride but whatever it is we don’t have it. This motorhome sways and rolls from side to side horribly. It is dangerous and frightening to drive. What do we need to do in order to stop this from happening. We have been reading it the blog and we are not sure what will work best. We are disappointed that we are going to have to invest quite a bit of money to make this motorcoach handled correctly.
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What you are describing is body roll. You will have to upgrade your front and rear sway bars to reduce the body roll. Also, if your tire pressure is too low it will cause a mushy ride.
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02-03-2020, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Fort White
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmarana3
We just purchased the Jayco 2020 Allante 31V. I’m not sure what they mean by J ride but whatever it is we don’t have it. This motorhome sways and rolls from side to side horribly. It is dangerous and frightening to drive. What do we need to do in order to stop this from happening. We have been reading it the blog and we are not sure what will work best. We are disappointed that we are going to have to invest quite a bit of money to make this motorcoach handled correctly.
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I have the Entegra Vision 31V, same chassis, same floorplan, and built in the same plant as the Allante 31V. Here's what I did, and it made a world of difference.
#1. Check your tire pressures, I run mine at 90 psi.
#2. Perform the Cheap Handling Fix (CHF), which is to change the anti-sway bars front and rear to the stronger settings
#3. Added a rear trac bar to remove the tail wagging
#4. Added a front steering stabilizer to the steering arm
#5. Had an alignment done
I did these in this order (3-5) done at the same time by a truck service center. I did 1 & 2 myself. Made a huge difference in th ride of my 31V.
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Michael & Angela Foret
North Central Florida
2019 Entegra Vision 31V
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02-04-2020, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Middleburg
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Foretm, can you provide a ballpark price for the rear trac bar and front steering stabilizing. I'm working a deal with a dealership for a 2018 Precept 31UL, haven't been able to test drive it yet, but this info can be useful in the negotiations. Thanks
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02-04-2020, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Fort White
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The prices will vary based on the chassis. My chassis is the 18K GVWR chassis, so my prices were as follows:
UltraTrac Trac Bar Rear - $479
Safe-T-Plus Steering Stabilizer (White) - $540
Labor for installation and alignment - $830.16
I ordered my parts from UltraRV ( www.ultrarvproducts.com) and I had my installation and alignment done at Raney's Truck Service in Ocala, FL.
Hope this helps...
Mike
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Michael & Angela Foret
North Central Florida
2019 Entegra Vision 31V
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02-07-2020, 08:50 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Palm Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmarana3
We just purchased the Jayco 2020 Allante 31V. I’m not sure what they mean by J ride but whatever it is we don’t have it. This motorhome sways and rolls from side to side horribly. It is dangerous and frightening to drive. What do we need to do in order to stop this from happening. We have been reading it the blog and we are not sure what will work best. We are disappointed that we are going to have to invest quite a bit of money to make this motorcoach handled correctly.
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We had the exact same problem. We added SafeTSteering, SumoSprings and a rear track bar. Helped tremendously. No more white knuckles when we drive. Now I am looking for a softer shock absorber.
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02-08-2020, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: frankfort
Posts: 392
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carigrafix
We had the exact same problem. We added SafeTSteering, SumoSprings and a rear track bar. Helped tremendously. No more white knuckles when we drive. Now I am looking for a softer shock absorber.
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I have the 18k frame 31ul, 2016. The konis although expensive were worth it for a smoother ride. I bought online and paid the truck shop one hour labor to install.
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02-13-2020, 10:59 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Sechelt
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmarana3
We just purchased the Jayco 2020 Allante 31V. I’m not sure what they mean by J ride but whatever it is we don’t have it. This motorhome sways and rolls from side to side horribly. It is dangerous and frightening to drive. What do we need to do in order to stop this from happening. We have been reading it the blog and we are not sure what will work best. We are disappointed that we are going to have to invest quite a bit of money to make this motorcoach handled correctly.
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I have a new 2019 31V and it swayed side to side if the road was uneven. It also bounced around especially in the front. Other than that it tracked very well on the road and wasn't affected by trucks passing.
I went to a shop in Vancouver BC that does a test drive before they do anything. They recommended Koni shocks up front. We did that and the problem is 90% better. We just drove 2000 miles in all kinds of roads including small windy roads and it handles fine.
They also recommended the steering stabilizer to firm up the steering but I think it tracks fine. I may do it later.
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02-21-2020, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Full time in our RV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilT0
I have a new 2019 31V and it swayed side to side if the road was uneven. It also bounced around especially in the front. Other than that it tracked very well on the road and wasn't affected by trucks passing.
I went to a shop in Vancouver BC that does a test drive before they do anything. They recommended Koni shocks up front. We did that and the problem is 90% better. We just drove 2000 miles in all kinds of roads including small windy roads and it handles fine.
They also recommended the steering stabilizer to firm up the steering but I think it tracks fine. I may do it later.
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Had Sumo springs installed on our 36T last week. A tremendous upgrade in ride and sway.. Also added the steering stablizer and sway bar. Well worth the money.
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