Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-19-2015, 07:32 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fulshear
Posts: 7
Trailer Towing

We are picking up our new Precept 29UR this Wednesday. This is our first RV after looking for around 6 months. Our need for the RV is very specific as we travel with our son for him to race his car (9 years old). We have a 22' enclosed cargo trailer and I have taken for granted we will be able to tow this with the RV. We are using a 1/2 ton pickup now.

Looking closer at the Precept spec's, it shows a "5,000 -pound rear hitch receiver". We will be right at that weight of the trailer with his car in it.

Anyone pulling something similar with their Precept? Most towing threads I see refer to pulling a car.

Thanks,

Kenny Brown
__________________

Downtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2015, 09:04 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
D&MAKAFUN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: KC MO
Posts: 358
Hi Kenny, Congratulations on your Precept and Welcome to the forums.
I can not answer your question. My Jeep adds about 4200# to my combined vehicle weight. You really need to weigh your loaded trailer on a CAT scale so you know exactly how much weight you have.
A trailer that size, I am sure has brakes........right? Your Precept is built to stop itself, not an extra 5000# and in most states, brakes are required.
Join us on the Precept Owners Group.........from the header above, click "community", then click "Social Groups", locate Precept Owners Group on the right and come join us.
I know of one of our members who pulls a trailer with motorcycles on that his son races. I have no idea of the weight.
Good luck, see you on the Precept Owners Group.
Darrell
__________________

__________________
Darrell, Mary & K.C. Toller Mix
In our hearts: Goldens, Tess & Jericho
'15 Jayco Precept 31 UL "Bertha"
'13 Wrangler Sahara...AKAFUN
Roadmaster base plate
Ready Brute Elite towbar and brake combo
D&MAKAFUN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2015, 09:39 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fulshear
Posts: 7
Thanks Darrell, glad to find this forum and the Precept Owners forum as we have a lot to learn.

It is a tandem axle trailer and does have electric brakes. I've talked to a friend with a similar trailer and an older Class A RV and they have no problems towing.
Downtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2015, 05:37 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Currituck, NC
Posts: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
Thanks Darrell, glad to find this forum and the Precept Owners forum as we have a lot to learn.

It is a tandem axle trailer and does have electric brakes. I've talked to a friend with a similar trailer and an older Class A RV and they have no problems towing.
Welcome to the forum

You may or may not be able to tow your trailer but the only way to know for sure is to go to the scale. I'd also suggest you look into the hitch weight as there is not to much room to max out GVW of the Precept @18k after loading stuff into it. Remember the hitch weight adds to the MH GVW and the trailer weight adds to the CGVW of both MH and trailer.

With campers, either TT, FW or MH's, each is unique in the weight limits, so don't just go by what someone else does.

Steve
__________________

Steve & Sharon
2015 Precept 31UL
Tow - 2010 Honda CR-V
gmapatime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2015, 09:55 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fulshear
Posts: 7
I'm getting more concerned now. I'll be at the scales tomorrow with the trailer to see where we are.

The dealer is installing a brake controller before we pick it up tomorrow. I choked at $800 to install it, but have to have it. They made it sound like they would have to wire it from scratch.

Also, looking at the Thor A.C.E. website, they use the same Ford F53 chassis, but have a 8000 lb. hitch rating. Could this be just the difference in the class of hitch installed and using a different hitch on the Precept raise the towing capacity?

I do understand I would need to keep under the CGVW.
Downtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2015, 05:41 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Currituck, NC
Posts: 87
The Thor A.C.E. with the F-53 chassis has the same exact weight ratings as the Precept in that GVW is 18k and CGVW is 23k, so the towing capacity is still 5k. Hitch ratings are only the capacity of the hitch, not what the MH can tow.

While at the scale, be sure to get the actual tongue weight alone because that is the number you need to add to the actual Precept weight.

Steve
__________________

Steve & Sharon
2015 Precept 31UL
Tow - 2010 Honda CR-V
gmapatime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2015, 09:07 AM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Fulshear
Posts: 7
Trailer weight (empty) is 5700lbs.

Looking for a plan B.
Downtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2015, 09:51 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
D&MAKAFUN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: KC MO
Posts: 358
Downtown, X2 on Steve's info.
Good that you have a plan B. I would be very uncomfortable pulling that trailer. Your weight # is empty which is already 700# over the rating. You could easily top 8000# loaded.
Good luck with it,
Darrell
__________________
Darrell, Mary & K.C. Toller Mix
In our hearts: Goldens, Tess & Jericho
'15 Jayco Precept 31 UL "Bertha"
'13 Wrangler Sahara...AKAFUN
Roadmaster base plate
Ready Brute Elite towbar and brake combo
D&MAKAFUN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2015, 03:53 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
mowdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Las Vegas!!
Posts: 158
800 bucks is hiway robbery!! The brake controller is plug and play as the Precept is prewired and you only have to drill two small holes in dash to hold controller (like we used to mount our CB radios) and then plug the wires into a plug that is under the dash now. This is a simple job once you have the parts, takes maybe 10 minutes.


Your Jayco Precept is factory wired for electric brakes by Ford when chassis was built. The plug is just under dash forward of your right knee. Camping World sells the wire connecter that plugs into the Ford plug and your done.
__________________
2015 Jayco Precept 35UN
Towing JEEP TJ with Roadmaster plates and bar w/Blue Ox Patriot brake
OR
an Aluma low bed trailer with HD Road King and/or Polaris RZR onboard
mowdoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2015, 04:08 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Texas
Posts: 4,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by mowdoc View Post
800 bucks is hiway robbery!! The brake controller is plug and play as the Precept is prewired and you only have to drill two small holes in dash to hold controller (like we used to mount our CB radios) and then plug the wires into a plug that is under the dash now. This is a simple job once you have the parts, takes maybe 10 minutes.


Your Jayco Precept is factory wired for electric brakes by Ford when chassis was built. The plug is just under dash forward of your right knee. Camping World sells the wire connecter that plugs into the Ford plug and your done.
I completely agree that $800 seemed way high for a brake controller install. I don't have any experience with the Ford F53 chassis though, so I hesitated to say anything. But even if it's NOT plug and play, the wiring should be there to tap into, and even that is not an $800 job. I could see that money (maybe) if they had to run all new wires and start from scratch ... but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

If I were you, I would get a second opinion from a Ford shop that routinely works on the F53 chassis.
__________________

__________________


2014 Jay Flight 28 BHBE
2015 RAM 2500 6.4L HEMI, Tradesman 4x4, 3.73
Blue Ox SwayPro (BXW 1503)

Upgraded from an REI internal frame backpack and a Eureka 1/2 dome tent!
Camper_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.