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Old 06-21-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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Which would you tow? Would really like some opinions....!

So here's the dilemma I could use your input on; Got a new 31UL and have to decide what to tow. Had no freakin' clue how expensive these tow systems add up to! And to make matters worse, both our vehicles are 2012 and although we have no plans to upgrade the cars for the foreseeable future - it'll happen sooner or later.

So we have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Overland with 102,000 miles (and with the "double-secret key" free-wheeling hubs release for easy, low-friction, flat towing). And a 2012 Fiat 500 Pop Cabriolet with 37,000 miles and 5-speed for also easy flat towing, albeit at probably half the weight! (Jeep=4,750 lbs, and Fiat=2,400 lbs).

I just hate the idea of investing $1,100 in either vehicles Base Plate + Install Labor, all of which is a throw-away when we upgrade down the road. But that is what it is.

However with the Fiat I wouldn't need to (right now anyway) invest the additional $1,500 for a Delta Force braking system since it's so light. So I put off that expense for a bit until maybe we purchase a Wrangler tow vehicle later on.

SO I KEEP GOING BACK-N-FORTH ON WHICH TO TOW. Clearly I'd love to have the awesome GC Overland as it's inscrutable, comfortable, a beast, and can carry our bikes no problem - BUT FOR A PRECEPT 31UL IN THE MOUNTAINS IT'S GOING TO A PAINFUL XTRA<5,000 LBS CLIMB! On the other hand the Fiat is cheap to tow, does the job, saves some money today anyway, and with the top down riving through Yosemite-and-the-like, it's a blast (but again no bike's :-(

ANY CONSENSUS OF OPINION? Which way would you personally go? Anyone with actual experience? (as in, how "bad" is it going to be towing the GC Overland all through the Rockies?) (And then of course there's always the difference in gas mileage between the too!)

Thanks all!

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Old 06-21-2018, 03:55 PM   #2
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Correction!; Guess we could take the bikes with the Fiat!

So if it makes any difference I guess we just figured out that we could actually take the bikes off the rack on the Precept and toss them in the back of the towed Fiat if we use that, and get the short distance to where we want to bike (should it be too far to simply bike there in the first place that is). So...still looking for opinions on which vehicle you would set up to tow given the above circumstances.
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Old 06-21-2018, 05:43 PM   #3
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My parents had a motorhome for many years before health stopped their traveling. They always pulled Jeeps with them. They were always taking day trips from where they were camping and enjoyed the additional capabilities that the 4x4 offered them.

It really comes down to what you want that vehicle to do. If you prefer efficiency, bring the Fiat. If you want a more all around capable vehicle with more interior room, choose the GC.
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Old 06-22-2018, 04:42 AM   #4
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IMHO I think you still need an auxiliary braking system for the Fiat. It may be lighter than the Jeep but it’s no different than towing a 2400 lb trailer behind your coach. Without a aux brake system you are relying totally on your MH brakes. Also, it may be a legal requirement. If you’re wanting to save money for a few years why not trailer the Fiat? You would have brakes on the trailer and plenty of room for your bikes or anything else you wanted to bring along. Just a thought. Good luck in your decision and happy camping.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:08 PM   #5
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I would go with the Fiat, lighter weight, unless you really need 4x4.
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:45 AM   #6
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We love our Jeep Unlimited Rubicon, but its heavy and if you don't need 4x4 than go lighter. I know there is a lot of chatter on what is legal or not legal while towing a vehicle behind your coach. The coach needs to be able to safely stop both vehicles. I personaly believe a good braking system with a break away cable is a must in our litigious society.
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Old 06-24-2018, 11:28 AM   #7
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I have a 2002 Z28 Camaro that I wanted to haul with my Motor home. I could not tow this car. I bought a car hauling trailer for it and I loved it. I could use the trailer for other hauling needs and I could haul my pickup for hunting as well. It came with brakes and not much more expensive than a brake and tow bar system. No ware and tear on the vehicle.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:02 AM   #8
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I use a Grand Cherokee as a toad. Works fine but it's weight is noticeable over the Wrangler I towed last year. Lighter is better unless you need 4wd. Breakdown bikes with hinges in the middle are available or put a bike carrier on the Fiat with a small receiver.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:09 PM   #9
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We just bought a 2017 Buick Envison AWD

It is under 4000 lbs, and can't really feel it behind the Precept 31UL
You just put it in Neutral, flick the fuse shut off switch, and away you go!
We use the blue ox patriot II for brake system.
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We had a 2014 Honda CRV, and it was a lot more work to get it ready for towing.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:23 PM   #10
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We tow a CR-V @ 3400lbs, that being said go with the Fiat if you don't need 4x4, but as a general rule almost all states require an aux braking system if the towed vehicle is 1500lbs or more. Not saying you would be stopped, but in case of an accident of any kind it would come up. We take our bikes on a hitch carrier on the CR-V, I am sure you could get a lightweight receiver added to the Fiat for the bikes. Those Jeeps are heavy!

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