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Old 04-04-2011, 06:46 AM   #21
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I recently re-populated all the lights in my 20911 23FB G2 with LEDS from the company that made the OEM lights. See my post in Tech Talk for details.

BTW, I have no idea how it got in that forum as I intended it to got into the Travel Trailer forum.

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Old 04-12-2011, 08:48 AM   #22
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We camp frequently in national forest campgrounds where there are no eletrical hookups available. To deal with having enough stored electricity I installed two large storage batteries and led bulbs in almost all fixtures. There's enough electricity to last us for our week-long stays.
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Just wunderin'.... can someone let me know if the led's light up better than the little led battery push button lights you can buy at WM?

We bought two smaller ones to place under the cabinet between the range hood and the sink (lighting there is poor at night). We held the light up there last night, but it didn't put off as much light as a regular bulb light does and as David posted earlier seemed to be directional. Is this indicative of what the lighting would be if we replaced the regular bulbs throughout the tt? We like to save $$, battery power, and the earth, but rarely boondock (a WM here and there when traveling x-cntry) and our eyes need lotsa light now-a-days... Thanks ahead of time for the input
If you buy the good ones they do.. but some are worse... those walmart ones are really just there to provide a glow so you dont trip over them...
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Anyone have any issues to remove excess plumber putty from the plastic in the kitchen. 2011 29rk and I don't have anything in manual to tell me how to clean off the excess
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:15 AM   #25
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Do the LED lights produce less heat; I noticed in our trailer within a few minutes of turning on the incadesent lights the lens are pretty hot.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:23 PM   #26
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Yes they do produce a lot of heat, compared to their wattage, so be carefull where you install them. If a regular light blub is 60 w that is the heat output, you may get 60w out of much lower wattage led. Just be sure the led lamps are rated to be used where you are putting them ie a enclosed recessed fixture for example. Got ? call the mfg.
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I attended a seminar/sales pitch yesterday up in Prescott for Starlites, Inc. and their LEDs were pretty impressive. One reason some 12v LEDs are so expensive has to do with the driver package in the base. The driver determines the voltage hitting the LEDs which determines brightness, color and lifespan. The sales rep had a display that compared the light output from several LEDs and an incandescent bulb. Two of the LEDs were direct replacements for the wedge types used in Jaycos. One was about as bright as the incandescent and the other was considerably brighter. The lights were a natural warm color, especially the brighter one. I checked the website (www.starlightsinc.com) and they are pretty pricey ($25-30) but they claim they will last 75 times longer than incandescents and use 1/8 the current. They also run a lot cooler (no more melted lenses). Since I plan on stealing juice from my lighting circuits to run 12V fans, I will probably need to use LEDs to avoid blowing fuses.
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I want to correct the " heat " problem that I mentioned. That issue is with 120V led lamps not 12v .Sorry for that miss information.Larry
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I got these on ebay last year for the inside of the trailer , very bright . here is the Ebay number... 120662421379
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:56 PM   #30
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Since I do a fair amount of boondocking, I also upgraded to a few LED's in lieu of the 921 energy hogs.

I installed #K-900UPG LED boards (came with new lenses) from Command Electronics in my TT recently and I remain very satisfied. They put out 510 lumens per board at only .47amps each (compared to 1.4 amps/bulb). Install was easy, just had to place the boards a little off center in the light fixture to accommodate the coil on the board.
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They give off a bright, warm white light that is fine for reading as well.

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Old 05-05-2011, 07:41 AM   #31
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Do the LED lights produce less heat; I noticed in our trailer within a few minutes of turning on the incadesent lights the lens are pretty hot.
Way less heat... as they use less electricity.. after being on for an hour you can still touch them...
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I think the purpose of replacing the standard lights with LED's is to reduce the draw on your batteries. I will be replacing all my bulbs with LEDs on my new 2011 Jayco. Cost is not a factor really as long as I can extend battery life since we camp way out in the middle of no where when dirt biking so no electrical hook ups.
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I think the purpose of replacing the standard lights with LED's is to reduce the draw on your batteries. I will be replacing all my bulbs with LEDs on my new 2011 Jayco. Cost is not a factor really as long as I can extend battery life since we camp way out in the middle of no where when dirt biking so no electrical hook ups.
The primary reason I'll be replacing the incandescents with LEDs on my TT when I get it is so I can install fans on the same circuits without blowing fuses. Most people switch them out for the same reason as you however, two happy side effects are dramatically reduced heat (less heat in the room and no more melted fixtures) and increased light output. Often the quality of the light is also improved, depending on the choice of LEDs.
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:46 AM   #34
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I just ordered a 4 pack of these "4X SUPER WHITE T10 WEDGE LED LIGHT BULBS 1206 SMD 25LED" (ebay 330566778509) for $13/free shipping

Will see how they perform when they arrive.

The seller doesn't have the 5500K ones at the moment, these are 6000K. Hopefully not too blue
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I think you will find 6000K is pretty blue.
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Just got the bulbs I ordered. They are fairly blue. But current is awesome. My meter shows 0.19 amps with everything off. With one fixture (2 bulbs) running I was up to 2.88 amps. Popped in the LEDs and current is 0.41 amps total ( including the .19 I was drawing)

gotta go out in the dark tonight and see if they are too blue for me or not
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Just got the bulbs I ordered. They are fairly blue. But current is awesome. My meter shows 0.19 amps with everything off. With one fixture (2 bulbs) running I was up to 2.88 amps. Popped in the LEDs and current is 0.41 amps total ( including the .19 I was drawing)

gotta go out in the dark tonight and see if they are too blue for me or not
How would you compare the brightness to the original bulbs? For $13 I think I'll give a few of them a try :-)
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How would you compare the brightness to the original bulbs? For $13 I think I'll give a few of them a try :-)
They are probably 75% as bright is the 921 bulbs I pulled out. I just went out and looked at them again now thats it dark here and they are more blue than I would like. But not terrible. they could stand to be a bit brighter though. I replaced the 4 bulbs in the main living area ceiling fixtures.

The same seller also has the 42 led version which should be brighter. I am gonna order 4 of those and try them. I will probably move these from the main living area to the bedroom. I will probably get more of the 25 led ones for the rest of the trailer.

I am gonna leave the bulbs over the bathroom mirror alone though and replace all the rest.

I also noticed that the light fixtures (by command electronics) do not have reflectors at all. Just white plastic. I wonder if adding a reflector (or aluminum foil) would help the output a bit.
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I paid $25.00 ea from a dealer in Quartzite he warned me that they were brighter than the 921's I was replacing... HE WAS RIGHT...
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They are probably 75% as bright is the 921 bulbs I pulled out. I just went out and looked at them again now thats it dark here and they are more blue than I would like. But not terrible. they could stand to be a bit brighter though. I replaced the 4 bulbs in the main living area ceiling fixtures.

The same seller also has the 42 led version which should be brighter. I am gonna order 4 of those and try them. I will probably move these from the main living area to the bedroom. I will probably get more of the 25 led ones for the rest of the trailer.

I am gonna leave the bulbs over the bathroom mirror alone though and replace all the rest.

I also noticed that the light fixtures (by command electronics) do not have reflectors at all. Just white plastic. I wonder if adding a reflector (or aluminum foil) would help the output a bit.
I saw the 42 led bulbs after I ordered my first set to test with. I was also wondering about the reflectivity of the fixtures as well.
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