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Old 12-30-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
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New Stand-Alone Heat System for your trailer

The new system does not require a gas furnace to be hooked inline with the electric heater. It has its own fan with cabinet and works with the RV Comfort Systemís CheapHeat controller and electric heater. This system is UL certified and RVIA compliant in both the United States and Canada.

The system consists of a multi-position combination-ducted/plenum cabinet that allows the tri-stage heater element to be installed from either side so the system can be used in multiple locations. The press release stated that one of the productís best features is that a trailer manufacturer is no longer required to place the furnace next to an outside wall for venting, which provides more flexibility in its floorplans.

RV Comfort Systems is based in Bothell, Wash., and is the OEM patent holder for the CheapHeat electric heating system for recreational vehicles. The company will be making its new system available for public purchase on Jan. 1. More information is available by calling 425-408-3140 or visiting www.rvcomfortsystems.com.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:27 PM   #2
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The new system does not require a gas furnace to be hooked inline with the electric heater. It has its own fan with cabinet and works with the RV Comfort Systemís CheapHeat controller and electric heater. This system is UL certified and RVIA compliant in both the United States and Canada.

The system consists of a multi-position combination-ducted/plenum cabinet that allows the tri-stage heater element to be installed from either side so the system can be used in multiple locations. The press release stated that one of the productís best features is that a trailer manufacturer is no longer required to place the furnace next to an outside wall for venting, which provides more flexibility in its floorplans.

RV Comfort Systems is based in Bothell, Wash., and is the OEM patent holder for the CheapHeat electric heating system for recreational vehicles. The company will be making its new system available for public purchase on Jan. 1. More information is available by calling 425-408-3140 or visiting www.rvcomfortsystems.com.
I've been following several threads other forums on Cheap Heat and I'm seriously considering it for my TT when I get it to reduce propane consumption. Because of the wacky location of the furnace, a stand alone system that uses the floor ducts might be attractive. However, when I just now went to the website, I didn't see anything on it. Or am I blind (I do wear trifocals)?
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The web site worked fine for me. Here's a video to whet your appetite:

http://www.rvcomfortsystems.com/sysinfo_video.html
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I've been following several threads other forums on Cheap Heat and I'm seriously considering it for my TT when I get it to reduce propane consumption. Because of the wacky location of the furnace, a stand alone system that uses the floor ducts might be attractive. However, when I just now went to the website, I didn't see anything on it. Or am I blind (I do wear trifocals)?
Jeannie, This was cut and pasted from an email I recived, I bet because of this not being for sale until 1/1/2012 they didn't update the web page but I think if you call the number they would send you info on it. Happy New Year
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The web site worked fine for me. Here's a video to whet your appetite:

http://www.rvcomfortsystems.com/sysinfo_video.html
The website was working just fine for me, also; it just didn't have anything about the new standalone system. I've already watched the video you linked which also says nothing about the new system.
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Jeannie, This was cut and pasted from an email I recived, I bet because of this not being for sale until 1/1/2012 they didn't update the web page but I think if you call the number they would send you info on it. Happy New Year
Good to know I'm not getting blinder. I'll watch the site for a while to see if anything turns up. Hopefully, they will mainbtain their site better than Jayco does.
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From the video...NEMA 1 is the highest rated enclosure??

NEMA 1
NEMA 1 enclosures are typically used for protecting controls and terminations from objects
and personnel. This style of enclosure, while offering a latching door, does not have a
gasketed sealing surface. NEMA 1 enclosures are used in applications where sealing out
dust, oil, and water is not required. Motor start/stop stations are often housed in NEMA 1
enclosures.

Solid copper "ingot" used under the heat sink??

Looked like a yellow anodized aluminum one to me.

The product and concept look good to me. I can heat my trailer with 2 small portable space heaters set on low so it can be done. It just irks me when manufacturers use a BS artist to pitch their goods. The guy didn't even have the forethought to have a razor knife at hand to open the boxes!

Maybe I'm just over critical of the presentation.
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The website was working just fine for me, also; it just didn't have anything about the new standalone system. I've already watched the video you linked which also says nothing about the new system.
Sorry about that... misinterpreted your original post.
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From the video...NEMA 1 is the highest rated enclosure??

NEMA 1
NEMA 1 enclosures are typically used for protecting controls and terminations from objects
and personnel. This style of enclosure, while offering a latching door, does not have a
gasketed sealing surface. NEMA 1 enclosures are used in applications where sealing out
dust, oil, and water is not required. Motor start/stop stations are often housed in NEMA 1
enclosures...
The guy was referring to the strength of the box. NEMA 1 utilizes the heaviest guage steel required to make the box.

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...Solid copper "ingot" used under the heat sink??

Looked like a yellow anodized aluminum one to me...
I'm not sure what you are looking at. The piece the SCRs are in contact with looks like copper to me but could be an aluminum heatsink. Since they are fastened through to the case and the board is spaced away from the case, I suspect there is a piece of copper bar stock between the board and the box. Or there is a cast or machined piece of copper fastened to the box that protrudes through the board to serve as the heat sink. It is really hard to tell in the video.

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...The product and concept look good to me. I can heat my trailer with 2 small portable space heaters set on low so it can be done...
I know of at least two or three people on two other RV forums who have Cheap Heat installed and they are very pleased with how it works.

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...It just irks me when manufacturers use a BS artist to pitch their goods. The guy didn't even have the forethought to have a razor knife at hand to open the boxes!

Maybe I'm just over critical of the presentation.
I agree, the video is a podunk production. The guy doing the video (there is a second one on the website with him and Gary Bunzer, the RV Doctor, that is somewhat better) is obviously more of a desk jockey (he is the "top dawg" in the company), not a professional presenter. The video is typical of You Tube videos; low quality video and a limited budget. It costs money to make a professional video and a small company like RV Comfort Systems is not like to have the advertising budget to support making a professional video, let alone paying for the additional bandwidth needed to show it on their website. Personally, I would rather see money being spent to develop a product rather than promote it so I can be tolerant of a poor quality video.

I didn't detect any B.S. in the presentation. From what I've been able to glean from the website and from people who have used the system (including one who was able to get dealer status from Cheap Heat and install his own), everything presented was accurate.

I worked thirty years in warehousing, much of which was in shipping and receiving, and seven in retail and, even though we had knives available, we used whatever was in reach to open boxes: knives, keys, scissors, hands, pens, whatever was fastest. I'm thinking you may be a wee bit too picky on that point (and I'm so picky, noses cringe in terror when they see me).
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Sorry about that... misinterpreted your original post.
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