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Old 02-16-2016, 12:59 PM   #21
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They saw you coming a mile away. Probably because you were hot to trot with bells and whistles w/o really knowing what it took to meet your plan. Knew a guy who had inherited a lot of $$ and ordered a custom designed Houseboat with crazy stuff. Now lots of people have special ordered hboats, but this guy went off the charts and managed to turn a $250k boat into a $375k.

Now back to the solar setup thing [which I admit I know nothing about] and see what happens if you ask someone to build you a solar system from the ground up instead of following up with an established company and picking one of there systems. Kind of like asking Jayco to build you a camper from the frame up and you pick everything.
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Old 02-16-2016, 01:33 PM   #22
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Ha ha ha, I think to some extent you may be right. Maybe it is about lithium batteries... I will start asking about a setup with AGMs and then after getting a quote I will change the specs to lithium
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Old 02-16-2016, 01:37 PM   #23
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What exactly is he going to do for 20hrs installing an inverter?
I hope he is waxing your rig and washing the roof too
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:56 PM   #24
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Ha ha ha, I think to some extent you may be right. Maybe it is about lithium batteries... I will start asking about a setup with AGMs and then after getting a quote I will change the specs to lithium
There are a couple of guys here on the forum who are pretty solar savey and are well beyond the basics. I'd listen to them and follow their advice on what to buy and whats involved to get it installed since it doesn't sound like you're a DYI kind of guy. I don't think its so much about the lithium batteries other than it signals to the guy giving the quote that you're up for spending some big bucks.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:16 AM   #25
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I installed my own inverter in a matter of a couple or a few hours. Definitely, shop around.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:25 AM   #26
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There is no way an experienced installer should take that long to install anything. Lithium vs AGM or Lead acid install times should all be the same. They just use slightly different equipment.
He should do all that in a day. Maybe a day and a half if he is a perfectionist.
I installed my solar system over the course of two days having never done it before and with many 2 and 3 year old distractions and "help".

I would say it is an 8-10 hour job.
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:02 AM   #27
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I talked to Solar Mike yesterday he said 8-10 hours MAX..
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Old 02-17-2016, 10:46 AM   #28
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The number of hours does not surprise me. Installation does take some time and you are asking for a lot of components. I'm sure AM Solar would do a really good job.

Just a side note: Did you see the article in the latest Trailer Life magazine about installing solar? They installed an AM Solar system with lithium batteries and all the works...maybe the article could help you understand all that is involved and why it could take such a long time. If you can't pick up a copy, PM me and I will send you the article. Best of luck...
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:19 PM   #29
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If you do decide to go with the LiFePO4 battery system you may want to keep this information available... Just in case.. Not saying you will ever need it... but the information is good to have

If fire or explosion occurs when batteries are on charge, shut off power to charger. In case of fire where lithium iron phosphate batteries are present, flood the area with water. If any batteries are burning, water may not extinguish them, but will cool the adjacent batteries and control the spread of fire. CO2, dry chemical, and foam extinguishers are preferred for small fires, but also may not extinguish burning lithium iron phosphate batteries. Burning batteries will burn themselves out. Virtually all fires involving lithium iron phosphate batteries can be controlled with water. When water is used, however, hydrogen gas may be evolved which can form an explosive mixture with air. LITH-X (powdered graphite) or copper powder fire extinguishers, sand, dry ground dolomite or soda ash may also be used. These materials act as smothering agents. Fire fighters should wear self-contained breathing apparatus. Burning lithium iron phosphate batteries can produce toxic fumes including HF, oxides of carbon, aluminum, lithium, copper, and cobalt. Volatile phosphorus pent fluoride may form at a temperature above 230º Fahrenheit.

I believe that they also make a special fire extinguisher for use on these batteries.. I ran across it when I was researching LiFePO4 a few years ago. I decided to wait a few more years.

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Thank you guys for all useful information!

Ddrueckh- are you referring to this article?

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Off Grid Solar Powered RV Air Conditioning - Is it Possible? - Gone With The Wynns
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