|
09-05-2011, 08:04 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
|
2012 Skylark capacity
I'm looking at the 2012 Skylark with 3500 lb single axle with dry weight of 3000 lbs with options. My concern is the 500 lbs carrying capacity. with propane and 1/2 tank water, it only leaves me with 400 lbs for my "stuff". I'd like to add 2 batteries which would reduce the capacity even more.
I do not know the tire capacity but I am thinking if they are 1900 each will this give me some margin for error? There is so much storage room available in this trailer that I'm surprised the capacity is not greater.
Which is my greatest concern, tire or axle capacity? Thanx
|
|
|
09-05-2011, 04:33 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 4,923
|
Yeah - that is the tradeoff for the lightweight trailers -- you get more trailer, but less cargo. If you are careful, you can make it work - but it is not easy. I would not recommend going over the rated capacity. If something were to break you could void your warranty or even worse, have a problem with the insurance company in the event of a wreck.
I think these campers are do-able - but the greatest weight is going to food and liquids - like 6 packs of cokes and bottled water. I bet we end up with 200 lbs of food/liquid on a week trip easy. Check you overall vehicle capacity and you may be able to carry some of the heavy stuff in your TV.
|
|
|
09-05-2011, 05:39 PM
|
#3
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9,424
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
snip......Which is my greatest concern, tire or axle capacity? Thanx
|
Neither, not to say they aren't important, but you should really focus on the TT's GVWR weight limit. The GVWR takes into consideration tires, axle(s), frame, etc..
Your correct to be careful about loading a TT with a low CCC.., in these cases it's best to run across a CAT scale just to make sure that you are within the weight limits once loaded.
Bob
__________________
2016 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4.10
2018 Jay Flight 24RBS
2002 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4:10 (retired)
2005 Jayco Eagle 278FBS (retired)
1999 Jayco Eagle 246FB (retired)
Reese HP Dual Cam (Strait-Line)
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 02:41 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 320
|
Does the 500 lbs refer to towing the Skylark or does it include the time it is parked in the campsite? If it is towing weight than some of the heavier things could be carried in the TV and then transferred to the trailer once its set up. Of course it that weight is all it can hold even parked, most of that would be used up just in body weight.
__________________
2012 X23J
2011 Nissan Pathfinder
10 years till retirement than maybe full timers...the countdown begins
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 09:05 AM
|
#5
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9,424
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phar0e
Does the 500 lbs refer to towing the Skylark or does it include the time it is parked in the campsite? ....snip
|
Phar0e,
Interesting question..., but I would tend to believe that the TT GVWR shouldn't be exceeded while in tow. With the TT "parked" and "unhitched" I will stick my neck out and assume that many of us will be over our respective GVWR once we add occupants, fluids, etc., while at the campsite.
I do know that the federal government is behind the new weight labels now being attached to Automobiles and RV's (MH's, TT's, HTT's etc.), thus the prior RVIA CCC weight labels will go away. MH's are the only type of RV that I'm aware of that the new OCCC (Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity) labels will show up on which combines people, water and cargo weight into one number.
TT's, HTT's ,etc., it is my understanding that the word "occupant" will not be part of the new "CCC" label/weight.
I'm open to comments on this one....
Bob
__________________
2016 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4.10
2018 Jay Flight 24RBS
2002 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4:10 (retired)
2005 Jayco Eagle 278FBS (retired)
1999 Jayco Eagle 246FB (retired)
Reese HP Dual Cam (Strait-Line)
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 09:16 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 4,923
|
Yes - great question - never really thought of that. I have to believe you would be fine as long as you are not just going crazy. When going down the road, hitting bumps, etc - you are putting a lot more stress on the frame and axles than when sitting in the camp site. In addition, your jacks should also be distributing the weight. The specs call for sleeping 6 people - so that would be an avg of about 90 lbs per person which we all know is not realistic.
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 10:15 AM
|
#7
|
Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Virginia`s Eastern Shore
Posts: 17,093
|
This question came up before on a liteweight with a small CCC and IIRC someone emailed Jayco and they said the CCC is for towing, not parked. So occupants do not count against the CCC. If they did, with a 500lb CCC you could never step inside the trailer after your stuff is in there!
__________________
2017 Coachmen Catalina 283RKS
2018 Ford F250 Super Duty 6.2l CCSB
2010 Jayflight 28BHS (sold)
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 10:45 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Secret Cove
Posts: 10,701
|
Good tip Lee.
Amazing how much there is too learn. I just realized I killed 2 deep cycle 12 volts by not knowing about 3 stage trickle chargers thing.
Dave
__________________
2010 Jayco Feather Sport 22'6" (sold)DrawTite,12,000 lbs. 2017 Jayco 212 QBW BAJA (bought)
2011 Ford F-150 XLT SCab 4x4 Tow Package
"If you can't be smart; be stubborn.". DG.
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 02:24 PM
|
#9
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9,424
|
I "believe" I read that with MH's the new OCCC (includes occupant weight) is based on the number of individual seat belts x 154lbs each. I'm sure our MH members are better versed on the OCCC weight than I am.
Bob
__________________
2016 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4.10
2018 Jay Flight 24RBS
2002 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4:10 (retired)
2005 Jayco Eagle 278FBS (retired)
1999 Jayco Eagle 246FB (retired)
Reese HP Dual Cam (Strait-Line)
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 06:00 PM
|
#10
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Rosemount, MN
Posts: 78
|
I have owned a Skylark for 2 years. At first I thought that the 3500 weight limit would be an issue. But after using the trailer a few times, we learned what to pack and what to leave at home. The trailer has been great for the family - DW, DS and Goldendoodle.
__________________
Camping is Great Fun!! :D
2010 Honda Pilot
2011 Skylark
|
|
|
01-26-2012, 07:47 PM
|
#11
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9,424
|
FYI: Skylark WDH recommendation by Jayco......., http://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...3842#post53842
Bob
__________________
2016 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4.10
2018 Jay Flight 24RBS
2002 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4:10 (retired)
2005 Jayco Eagle 278FBS (retired)
1999 Jayco Eagle 246FB (retired)
Reese HP Dual Cam (Strait-Line)
|
|
|
01-31-2012, 07:51 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 163
|
ditto to Big Sky
We have learned to pack what we need, keep liquids such as water and soda in the tow vehicle with limited supply in fridg.
Proper planning and it does not present a problem.
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|