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Old 11-10-2015, 07:05 PM   #1
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2016 Jayco White Hawk 28DSBH

Wanted to get some opinions. We are new at this. We have a 2015 Chevy Tahoe with a tow package. It can tow 8400lbs. We are looking at the new (2016)and used ( 2013) White Hawk 28dsbh. Two questions....
1) The weight of these trailers are about 6100lbs. Are we going to be OK with appropriate sway hitch etc. with towing?
2) The used 2014 White Hawk is nice and would cost $16300+ tax and tags. The 2016 White Hawk same version 28DSBH would cost $23,000 + tax and tags. We really like the new look of the 2016. We like the new cap, interior options, outdoor tv hinge, pocket doors for privacy, etc. Are we crazy to go new on our first trailer?

Any feedback from experienced folks will help. Thanks.
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:25 PM   #2
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That combo will tow very nicely. We have a 2012 Whitehawk at 6000 pounds and a Silverado with a 7700 tow capacity-- has worked great for us even in the mountains.

I would get the new White Hawk---they have made many small design improvements over the last few years. And that front cap will prevent fading!

Good luck with the RV shopping!

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Old 11-10-2015, 07:55 PM   #3
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I see nothing wrong with buying new for your first trailer...
That's what I did.

You need to look at what your Tahoe "payload" is. It should be on the driver door jam sticker.

Make sure the weight of the trailer tongue (yours is around 800-1000lbs) plus all passengers and luggage..ect doesn't exceed your trucks payload. (It really shouldn't exceed 80% of payload for comfortable driving)

I think Tahoes are a half ton truck. If so it could be to much trailer for it.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:43 PM   #4
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Hello. I looked up the payload online. It is 1715lbs with towing capacity 8400lbs with towing package. Looks like dry hitch weight is 655. Please see below specs of 28dsbh.


Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) View Definition 6020
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) View Definition 655
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) View Definition 7500
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) View Definition 1480
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:22 PM   #5
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Looks like you could be ok. 1715lbs isn't all that much though. I think you will have around 800 lbs tongue weight at least when you get all your camping gear in the trailer (no fluid in tanks).
The weight Distrubition hitch you will need weighs 100lbs.
Each passenger weighs around 150 lbs.

4 passengers 600lbs, tongue 800lbs, 100lbs for the hitch, 150lbs in fuel...
1650lbs is close but not over so you could be ok.

My payload is 2800lbs but I don't use all of it. I don't like having anything in the bed of my truck while towing keeping the payload as low as I can.
It handles a lot better without the extra weight, no sway when being passed by trucks.
With weight in the bed while towing I'll get sway from passing trucks and porpoising also happens when loaded.
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Old 11-11-2015, 04:34 AM   #6
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OK so nothing in my door about payload. I think that 1700 is low as well. I have a call into Chevy they have not been helpful. Most of the White Hawk Trailers even the smaller ones have a 600lb hitch weight. Here are the specs for the 2015 Tahoe ( I do have the towing package with cooling system/brake control) from Chevy's website,

Capacities
EPA interior volume
(cu ft / L):
120.8 / 3420
GVWR: (lb / kg):
2WD: 7100 / 3220
4WD: 7300 / 3310
Payload maximum
(lb / kg):
2WD: 1702 / 772 (with 3rd seat)
4WD: 1760 / 798 (with 3rd seat)
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
2WD: 8600 / 3900
4WD: 8400 / 3810

Curb Weight of Tahoe...Curb weight (lb / kg):
4WD: 5683 / 2577 (with 20-in. wheels)
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Some notes:

There should be a tire and loading sticker somewhere on your vehicle. Typically it's found in the driver's door jam; most have a yellow bar on top and bottom and it will list your tire sizes and air pressures. It will say "the combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed XXXX lbs". This is specific to your vehicle as equipped.

Forget the "tow rating" listed for your Tahoe. You'll never get there with a travel trailer before you exhaust the payload rating.

If you want to know your actual payload capacity for sure, take your Tahoe to a scale as loaded (or simulated load) for how you'll tow, and weigh it. Your GVWR (found on your VIN plate) minus your scale result is your actual available payload. Don't forget 50-100 lbs for weight distribution hitch and tackle.

While you could be a little over on payload (not recommended, but it happens) you definitely don't want to be over your axle GAWR, so you need to know that number too.

1715 lbs actually sounds a bit high. Remember that the weight specs you'll find online are typically without options. If you've added anything to the truck, your payload will decrease. This is more of a problem in pickups (think tool boxes, step rails, bedliners, light bars...) but is still a consideration in SUVs.

Trailer brochure dry weights (tongue or trailer weight) are not a good indication of what your trailer will weigh when you're towing it down the road for a trip. No one uses their trailer dry as it is listed in the brochure. Your propane tanks, batteries, and any options add to those weights as well as all your camping gear. How/where you load gear in your trailer directly affects tongue weight. If you can see one in person, the trailer will have an "as shipped" weight that includes propane and batteries. Add 500-1000 lbs for gear, and that gets you a lot closer to real world weights.

A trailer that long tows better with more tongue weight. So while the recommended tongue weight is 10-15%, you will want to be closer to 13-15% on the tongue.

IMO, it's a lot of trailer for a Tahoe. Not that it can't be done or be done safely, just that it's a lot for the truck.

Best of luck with your decision!
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With new - you get the 2-year warranty! With all the shaking/shivering your TT will take, it is unbeatable. Also, it is ALL yours, no one else has slept on the bed, used the bathroom, etc..
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I am planning to buy this trailer and will tow with short wheelbase SUV (will not mention the model to avoid all comments around this). To avoid sway I am planing to use Pro-Pride hitch, which adds 100 lbs of tongue weight (in comparison to a standard WD), but you do not have to put a lot on the tongue to have a stable combo.

I would say that it is not all the numbers you can read re payload, towing capacity, but the design of the car which makes the towing safe and comfortable (suspension, rear overhang, brakes, etc.).

As a side note - $23k for a new unit is pretty good price. Where did you get this price? This is with some optional features or without?
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:38 PM   #10
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Price East Coast ( have not purchased yet so don't want to disclose dealer) This price can be had. I communicated with two dealers one had it and another would have had to order it would cost a little more if ordered 23,780 + tax tags. Options Fancy cap, fridge, folding table, ladder, glacier package, sky light

Thanks for the advise. Most travel trailers have a hitch weight at about 600lbs. The weight is almost 3K less for towing. I understand that the pay load can be an issue and ensuring getting proper equipment. My kids are three under 10 so they are light. I plan on purchasing a full size truck in the next three years as a second car. The 2015 Tahoe is impressive ( I have had it a year and a half) with what I have been able to use it for to date. I just have never towed a 30ft camper before. I imagine the furthest we would travel would be an hour to two hours. Plenty of places to camp close. No mountains. We do not plan on traveling cross country.
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