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10-31-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chlinthi
The one we found used came with a nice dual 6V battery setup and solar chargers on the top-Chip
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I will wanting to do the the same thing to my X213 when I get it next spring... No chance of any pictures. If you got some pictures can you email me. I am curious where the two very large and heavy 6V batteries ended up.. Not much room up in front of the Propane Tanks - Guess that all adds to the tongue weight as well...
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10-31-2011, 08:55 AM
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Was looking for the furnace in the X-213 pictures I have. Is that the furnace directly under the fridge. It must be the furnace or the Converter... I also see another door/panel under the fridge that has a screen on it. I dont see any floor ducts in any pictures so I reckon the furnace only has one heat outlet in the kitchen area. Also what is the black looking panel in the hallway between the dinette and couch right under the bed entrance. Maybe that is the converter???
I also see no Air Conditioner ducts anywhere except on the A/C itself so that must be like my POPUP A/C.
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We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
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10-31-2011, 09:12 AM
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Hey RoyBraddy, I can answer most of your questions....
-As for the slide, no track on top, tracking under the bed is the only ones.
-Weight limits for Sleeping extended or retracted 1100lbs (no supports needed while retracted to my knowledge)
-Weight limits for storage/cargo when extended, retracted or during travel 200lbs
-Furnace is directly under the fridge heat ducts run throughout the trailer via the walls (3 or 4 throughout including one in the bathroom)
-Black Panel under the bed entrance is the breaker panel (found that out when the wife was using a hot iron at the same time as the toaster one morning)
-AC is roof mounted mid trailer, no ducting for it just blows to the front and back right off the unit.
Any other questions let me know. I am currently getting mine ready for winter. I can send pics if you need them.
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10-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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Thanks - makes more sence now... I had a bigger resonse going and it all went away on me for some reason so I guess i will just stick with Thanks haha...
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We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
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11-01-2011, 03:09 PM
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More comments on X213...
Has anyone added any cables to the BED SLIDE OUT area. Since it has to move in and out was wondering what you would do with the cables. I'm assuming JAYCO has lights and power inside the bed area already... Must be a cable loop somewhere that moves with the bed slide...
I finally got to download an inside photo showing the bed slide retracted, Thtas pretty neat...
Also has anyone every brought inside water, or dirt that was on the outside of the bed slide and then when retracted all of this ends up on the couch and dinette... Is that a problem ???
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We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
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11-01-2011, 05:50 PM
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The slide out has a light on a coil type cord that plugs into a jack on the ceiling of the trailer. Just like the pop up trailers.
If it has been raining, or if leaves/pine needles etc fall down where I am camping, I will slide the picnic table over and stand on it to clear off the top of the slide out with a broom. Not a big deal.
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11-02-2011, 04:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum
The slide out has a light on a coil type cord that plugs into a jack on the ceiling of the trailer. Just like the pop up trailers.
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No power inside the bed slide... hmmmm... I was looking for something on the walls in the few pictures I have of the inside of the bed slide and didnt see anything... With the large opening into the living room I guess you really dont need anything inside the bed slide...
Im guessing that would be room for cut cables if you permanently added some home touches items with the slide moving in and out...
I always like to have a clock and a radio close by where I sleep. No bed lights either I guess...
Looking like if something was added the coiled cord at the entrance side would be the best idea. Open the bed slide out and then plug-in a cable to near the couch wall to power the things up maybe.
I'm thinking I at least gotta have a bed light under the those hanging cabinets - more pondering hehe
Thanks for the info
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I claim Horse Creek Country in Southern Ill - Momabear is from North Texas
We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
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11-02-2011, 07:34 AM
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Looking at pictures again -
Before retracting the bed slide it appears you have to let the couch out and take down the dinete table...
I guess that is no big effort but just more things to do before closing up shop and hitting the road again.
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I claim Horse Creek Country in Southern Ill - Momabear is from North Texas
We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
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11-02-2011, 09:03 AM
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Yes, couch has to go down and table has to be taken down as well.
We use battery operated lighting in the bunk area along with the corded light/fan that Quantum wrote about.
Side note for you or anyone looking into this unit. Pay close attention to the levelness of the bed once fully extended and retracted. I am currently having problems with the bunk being un-level. Jayco's suggested adjustment fix does the trick, but now the rail that the slide runs on digs into the fabric of the couch on the way in. I'm not too happy with this for obvious reasons, it's going to wear a hole in the couch over time not to mention staining the couch if lubrication/dirt etc gets on the rails.
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11-02-2011, 12:14 PM
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Thanks for the info - Will have to watch for that....
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I claim Horse Creek Country in Southern Ill - Momabear is from North Texas
We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS
"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
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11-05-2011, 05:54 AM
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We bought an x213 in September and have been out twice. We really like it. No issues yet. We like the floor plan since the bottom bunk at the front of the trailer folds up and allows us to carry our 2 bikes in that area. Our dog has claimed the sofa as his own. This is our first TT. Used to have a Jayco popup
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11-05-2011, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OffTheGround
Yes, couch has to go down and table has to be taken down as well.
We use battery operated lighting in the bunk area along with the corded light/fan that Quantum wrote about.
Side note for you or anyone looking into this unit. Pay close attention to the levelness of the bed once fully extended and retracted. I am currently having problems with the bunk being un-level. Jayco's suggested adjustment fix does the trick, but now the rail that the slide runs on digs into the fabric of the couch on the way in. I'm not too happy with this for obvious reasons, it's going to wear a hole in the couch over time not to mention staining the couch if lubrication/dirt etc gets on the rails.
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We had the same problem with the rails on the couch cushions. Thankfully I put the cushions down upside down, so the hole is in the vinyl on the back of the cushion. Now I don't put the cushions on the dinette any more I toss them into the slide out.
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11-05-2011, 06:53 PM
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I always put the dinette cushons on the slide bed, but I am concerned about the couch cushion because I can't take it off. Very frustrating for me cause it seems that the company is washing their hands of this problem. I have a hard time intentionally damaging one area of the trailer to accomodate another design problem. Not to rant, but a lot of hard earned money was spent on this trailer not to mention 4 months of research and shopping around for what we hoped to be the best TT. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
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11-05-2011, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OffTheGround
I always put the dinette cushons on the slide bed, but I am concerned about the couch cushion because I can't take it off. Very frustrating for me cause it seems that the company is washing their hands of this problem. I have a hard time intentionally damaging one area of the trailer to accomodate another design problem. Not to rant, but a lot of hard earned money was spent on this trailer not to mention 4 months of research and shopping around for what we hoped to be the best TT. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
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Can you post some pics of this problem so others can see it?
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11-06-2011, 07:17 PM
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Next time I go to my parents I will get a picture snapped. Its parked in my dad's shop for the winter.
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11-07-2011, 10:50 AM
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I will try and snap a few pics tonight.
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11-07-2011, 07:21 PM
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First time posting pictures, so I hope I did it right.
Picture #1 shows the slide out rail rubbing on the sofa cushion.
Picture #2 shows the wooden trim that surrounds the slide out digging into the sofa.
After toying with the unit while taking pictures tonight I found that the wooden trim (pic#2) is going to be my biggest concern. It digs right into the cushion for a good part of the slide out travel. Not only am I concerned about the cushion getting worn out, the actual wooden trim and plastic strip on the trim is going to get damaged over time due to it catching the fabric.
Very frustrating.
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11-07-2011, 07:30 PM
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Like they say a picture is worth a thousand words. I had trouble visualizing what you were describing before the pics. I see your reason for concern. Are all the X213`s set up so the couch gets dragged over like that?
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11-07-2011, 07:55 PM
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Originally it wasn't getting touched by the slide at all. There is a problem with the slide (master bed) being un-level and the only fix Jayco can come up with is to adjust the slide in such a way that the cushions get rubbed and dug into.
I feel and I have suggested to Jayco that there is a problem with the motor not being strong enough or clutch engaging too early when deploying the slide, but they don't seem to want to take my suggestion serious. Anytime I deployed the slide I would help it out by lifting it slightly in it's last few inches of travel while my wife held the button down and the slide was dead level every time. (previous to the new adjustment)
The dealer I am dealing with says that this seems to be a problem with the X213 and they hope that Jayco will come up with a better fix for it.
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11-07-2011, 08:03 PM
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In viewing the floorplan, that looks to be a huge rear slide with a king bed and considerable overhang out the back. I suppose it would take a beefy slide mechanism to extend/retract it and hold it level with that much leverage and weight on the back end.
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