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Old 10-18-2018, 08:18 AM   #541
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any tips for finding a tongue weight scale that I could use? Rv places have one?
Amazon is where I got mine.
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Old 10-18-2018, 10:00 AM   #542
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Loaded (well, slightly overloaded) for camping, 1 battery, 2 20lb tanks on the tongue, 4 bikes under the bunk bed, no fresh water, minimal black tank and empty grey tank gave me a tongue weight of 700lbs (540 with WDH).

I don't know where they get that 390 lbs, but they must have moved everything heavy to the rear bumper, because mostly empty (most weight was behind the axles, except for propane and battery) I was 580lbs (440lbs with WDH)

My CAT scales visits here: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...sit-59158.html

As for the tongue weight scale, make sure to test it out after getting the trailer weighed properly to see how accurate it is. I tried out this one: https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...le/A-p8686024e (Princess Auto is like the Canadian Harbor Freight), and it was ~100lbs under the CAT scale weight. I ended up returning it, and if I were to get something else, it would be a better quality one (and would still test it)

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Old 11-19-2018, 11:37 AM   #543
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I agree with everyone that tongue weight is over 650# and typically over 700#. When we bought ours, we actually pulled off the propane tanks, the electric jack, the battery and the spare tire and put it all on our lawn. The trailer had only bedding on the beds and nothing else inside. Our scale that maxed at 500# wasn’t able to register the tongue weight. So it was over 500#. I have NO idea where Jayco got 390#. That tongue weight exercise with our X213 is why we now have an F-150 with the Max Tow package.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:24 AM   #544
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Furnace access

X213 (2015)-

How do we access the furnace to troubleshoot on the x213? Trying to troubleshoot an ignition problem.

I get the blower to run but no ignition for heat. Have plenty of battery (fully charged). Can hear it trying to ignite but nothing fires up.

To remove it would I have to remove the fridge? The furnace sits below the fridge and I see no way to remove it to work on it. No access from the outside except for the exhaust. I can get a look at it from the panels under the fridge but good luck actually doing anything with it from there.
Any ideas?
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:57 AM   #545
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I have a 2012 X213 and one of my biggest annoyances with it is the ground clearance. Does anyone know if it is possible to run the "Baja" lift axles on an older model that didnt come with them?

And can you run taller tires? Right now it has ST185/80R13's which are a 24.4" OD. I know I could potentially move to a 205/75R14(26.3") or a 215/75R14(26.8") which would gain me 2 to 2.5" of OD. That gives me ~1-1.25" of clearance. My concern is simply if the tires will fit without contacting the fender liners or each other in certain sitiations.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:52 PM   #546
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I have a 2012 X213 and one of my biggest annoyances with it is the ground clearance. Does anyone know if it is possible to run the "Baja" lift axles on an older model that didnt come with them?

And can you run taller tires? Right now it has ST185/80R13's which are a 24.4" OD. I know I could potentially move to a 205/75R14(26.3") or a 215/75R14(26.8") which would gain me 2 to 2.5" of OD. That gives me ~1-1.25" of clearance. My concern is simply if the tires will fit without contacting the fender liners or each other in certain sitiations.
Not sure what "Baja lift axles" are, but the x213 uses torsion axles. I thought about lifting ours with fabricated plates to raise the factory axles, but decided to get rid of it and buy something new.
The trailer being too low was one of the reasons I got rid of it, but the main issue was the stupid heavy tongue weight. Of all the trailers we've had, this was the worst for pulling. We bought an RKS 235 which is 1000 LBS heavier, but it has less tongue weight that the X213 and tows soooo much nicer.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:38 PM   #547
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I have a 2012 X213 and one of my biggest annoyances with it is the ground clearance. Does anyone know if it is possible to run the "Baja" lift axles on an older model that didnt come with them?

And can you run taller tires? Right now it has ST185/80R13's which are a 24.4" OD. I know I could potentially move to a 205/75R14(26.3") or a 215/75R14(26.8") which would gain me 2 to 2.5" of OD. That gives me ~1-1.25" of clearance. My concern is simply if the tires will fit without contacting the fender liners or each other in certain sitiations.
I have one and you'd be hard pressed to find much taller tires/wheels in that weight size that actually fit. As it stands now there's not much room between the tires. I've personally dragged my bumper (and a jack) through a campsite - so I feel your pain. That being said I wouldn't want that model sitting too much higher (especially with my kids - it wobbles even with the short stabilizers jacked nice in tight). That being said...only one drag in close to 10K miles of towing and months of camping in it (dry and full hookups). We have enjoyed it.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:27 AM   #548
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Not sure what "Baja lift axles" are, but the x213 uses torsion axles. I thought about lifting ours with fabricated plates to raise the factory axles, but decided to get rid of it and buy something new.
The trailer being too low was one of the reasons I got rid of it, but the main issue was the stupid heavy tongue weight. Of all the trailers we've had, this was the worst for pulling. We bought an RKS 235 which is 1000 LBS heavier, but it has less tongue weight that the X213 and tows soooo much nicer.
I actually had designed my own lift plates in Solidworks, but I just found these last night:

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...tdgXZd4ar2OYSY

It looks like 2-3 people have tried them successfully. The guy that built the upgraded turbo for my diesel Liberty has a CNC plasma cutter and is going to cut them for me. That's 3" of lift.

I have a 2014 F150 Max tow, 157" wheel base truck and so far I have not had any issues towing my trailer. The trucks base curb weight empty is 700 lbs more than the GVWR of the X213. I had to drive from the Black Hills in SD, through Wyoming , and into Utah 2 weeks ago as a winter storm was blowing in from the north. Almost the entire 9 hour trip consisted of 30 mph winds with 40 mph gusts. I had no problems whatsoever and was able to maintain 65-70mph the whole way. I do load most of my gear to the front and its been fine with the Equal-i-zer.

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I have one and you'd be hard pressed to find much taller tires/wheels in that weight size that actually fit. As it stands now there's not much room between the tires. I've personally dragged my bumper (and a jack) through a campsite - so I feel your pain. That being said I wouldn't want that model sitting too much higher (especially with my kids - it wobbles even with the short stabilizers jacked nice in tight). That being said...only one drag in close to 10K miles of towing and months of camping in it (dry and full hookups). We have enjoyed it.
I havent dragged yet. But I do a lot of dispersed camping that involve some rugged dirt roads and its always a bit tense.

Thats actually a great point with the stabilizers. They already have trouble reaching the ground if the site isnt level with the trailer as low as it is now.

I did a bunch of measuring yesterday and even drew up the trailing arm/axle assemblies in cad to see if there would be any interference with larger tires. The best I can tell is you can run up to a 215/75R14 without issue. The trailing arms really dont move all that far and wouldn't be able to get into a position where the tires can even contact. I also measured from the center of the hub to the fender liners with the full weight on the one axle, and had ~17" of clearance which means that wont even be close.

ST185's:



ST215's:



The actual travel of the trailing arms is far more limited than what is in these pictures. I can't seem to get them to upload off Tapatalk, but the arm doesnt seem to drop more than ~20 degrees down and not much higher than horizontal.
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