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Old 10-04-2017, 01:21 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone,

Recently we upgraded to the 2017 White Hawk 28DSBH. The Unloaded Vehicle Weight is 6115, the Dry Hitch Weight is 680 and the Gross Vehicle Weight is 7500. Right now my TV is a Dodge Ram with the 5.7 Hemi with an Axle Ratio of 3.92. GVWR is 6900, Payload is 1510, GCWR is 13,800 and the Max Trailer Weight Rating is 7,990. Anyone think I'll run in to problems if I don't upgrade my truck. I know the numbers are close but everyone I've asked says the truck should be fine. All opinions are welcomed! Thank you in advance!
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Take the weight of your family, expected gear, and add 100 pounds for your WDH. Figure out what that number is. Subtract it from you 1510 payload. Take THAT number and divide it by .15. That's the MAX weight your truck is rated to pull assuming 15% tongue. Adjust your tongue down if you want.

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You + Wife + Kids = 500 pounds. 100 for WDH, that makes 600 pounds. 1510 - 600 = 910. Mind you there is no gear in the bed of your truck for this example.

910/.15 = 6066 pounds max.

If you want to hedge a little and try 14% tongue:
910/.14 = 6500 pounds max
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Take the weight of your family, expected gear, and add 100 pounds for your WDH. Figure out what that number is. Subtract it from you 1510 payload. Take THAT number and divide it by .15. That's the MAX weight your truck is rated to pull assuming 15% tongue. Adjust your tongue down if you want.

Ex.

You + Wife + Kids = 500 pounds. 100 for WDH, that makes 600 pounds. 1510 - 600 = 910. Mind you there is no gear in the bed of your truck for this example.

910/.15 = 6066 pounds max.

If you want to hedge a little and try 14% tongue:
910/.14 = 6500 pounds max
Thanks Jopopsy, I didn't want to have to buy another TV if I didn't have to.

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Factoring in the loaded weight, you'll most likely be heavy on the limit. A big factor on your decision, at least in the short run, is what kind of travel do you expect to undertake? 150 =/- mile trips to a near by state park and driving in flat or slightly hilly geography and you'll be OK as long as you pack as lightly as possible and keep speed down. Others will say you will be unsafe to yourself or the other travelers on the road near you. I can only say I have towed over my limit many times when younger pulling a pup with a straight 6 in a station wagon fully loaded with family and gear. Finally gave that vehicle to good will years later with95k miles and after 2 teen drivers cut their teeth on it.

I upgraded to a White Hawk 30DSRE a few years ago when I had a half ton Silverado. I knew I was over limits and upgraded to a 2500Hd after a few months. No doubt in my mind I could have towed safely if all I was planning was short trips. Being retired and plans for multi week trips, the upgrade was a given.
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Factoring in the loaded weight, you'll most likely be heavy on the limit. A big factor on your decision, at least in the short run, is what kind of travel do you expect to undertake? 150 =/- mile trips to a near by state park and driving in flat or slightly hilly geography and you'll be OK as long as you pack as lightly as possible and keep speed down. Others will say you will be unsafe to yourself or the other travelers on the road near you. I can only say I have towed over my limit many times when younger pulling a pup with a straight 6 in a station wagon fully loaded with family and gear. Finally gave that vehicle to good will years later with95k miles and after 2 teen drivers cut their teeth on it.

I upgraded to a White Hawk 30DSRE a few years ago when I had a half ton Silverado. I knew I was over limits and upgraded to a 2500Hd after a few months. No doubt in my mind I could have towed safely if all I was planning was short trips. Being retired and plans for multi week trips, the upgrade was a given.
Thanks Bassdog! We're going to the site we're staying at next year for the season, this weekend. It's about an hour and 20 minutes drive from home to use and make sure everything works in the trailer. Next year we'll be leaving the trailer there for the season. It will give me an idea how it tows. I pulled it about 2 and a half hours from the dealership with no issues. I don't really want to put out the money for a 2500 although I would if it meant keeping my family and everyone out there safe. I was thinking of possibly, if I had to upgrade, get the 15000 Ram with the 3.92 axle ratio. It's supposed to pull 10,000lbs.

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I debated with myself about the issue of 1/2 ton or 3/4 too. I choose half ton as it has the softer ride and installed the Air-Lift 1000 in the coils to stay level. My TW is around 900 lbs. I use a 1200 lbs. WDH bars with dual sway control. The sway control more due to the wind.
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I debated with myself about the issue of 1/2 ton or 3/4 too. I choose half ton as it has the softer ride and installed the Air-Lift 1000 in the coils to stay level. My TW is around 900 lbs. I use a 1200 lbs. WDH bars with dual sway control. The sway control more due to the wind.
Hi ALJO, I'm considering air bags for my truck to work with my weight distribution system. I have the Equalizer system that works really well. Going on the first camping trip in the new trailer loaded and I'll see how it works out.

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Air-Lift 1000 (or Firestone) is a very easy install. Jack under the frame and just loose the shock bottom bolt; jack under the axle and lower the axle, remove spring and slip the air-bag in. Install the airline and re-install the spring and jack up the axle and install the shock bolt. Do the same thing for the other side. Takes about an hour.
Don't try the suggested in the manual; to fold it through the spring, because it might damage the bag.
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Air-Lift 1000 (or Firestone) is a very easy install. Jack under the frame and just loose the shock bottom bolt; jack under the axle and lower the axle, remove spring and slip the air-bag in. Install the airline and re-install the spring and jack up the axle and install the shock bolt. Do the same thing for the other side. Takes about an hour.
Don't try the suggested in the manual; to fold it through the spring, because it might damage the bag.
Thanks ALJO, I'm going to look into them! I won't be camping after this weekend so I'll take it easy on the roads and get it done before next season.

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It's not always "can my truck pull this trailer"... more often it becomes "can my truck STOP this trailer".

We upgraded after sliding through a few stoplights - on downhill grades in the rain - even though our truck was fully rated for the weight. There may have been some other tweaks we could have done to help - like bumping up the trailer brake signal - but we both enjoyed the added amenities of the newer truck, too.
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