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Old 05-22-2013, 07:58 PM   #11
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Nice setup. Our trip with our new rig is this weekend. I was wondering did you leave your electric awning out overnight. Also did you experience any wind while it was open. Glad to hear everything worked for you.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:45 PM   #12
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Nice setup. Our trip with our new rig is this weekend. I was wondering did you leave your electric awning out overnight. Also did you experience any wind while it was open. Glad to hear everything worked for you.
I wouldn't leave it out.

I only leave the awning out if we plan to be up and about by the camper. If we're going to work, the beach, shopping, or even the park we pull it in. We definitely bring it in before going to bed.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:44 PM   #13
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Sidenote on the original post, where I observed seeing transmission fluid temp of 217 on a 95 degree day. Three mechanics I've spoken to don't think that installing another external cooler will help much (the truck has the trailering package, with external transmission oil cooler); they all think I need to move up to a 3/4 ton truck. And, after weighing the truck enroute to pick up the trailer, I know we're going to be overweight. TV is rated to 7000 GVWR, CAT scale weight showed 6900 lbs with nothing hooked on, or in the bed. Given that Jayco calculates a fully loaded White Hawk throws 975 lbs to the TV, I'm guessing we'd be overweight by at least that much, even with nothing more in the bed of the truck. Consequently, I'm looking to trade the 1/2 ton for a 3/4 ton Chevy gas truck. They are rated to 9500 GVWR, and should easily accommodate our TT and anything I want to throw in the bed. Of course, it will cost $$, but I'd rather err on the side of safety. ...
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:35 PM   #14
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First outing in new Whitehawk!

We are out at Bayley's campground in Scarborough Maine for our 1st outing in our new 2013 28dsbh. We are with my brother who is also enjoying his 1st time out in his identical TT (pddjr25). The weather is rainy but hopefully clears up, although the forecast is not looking promising. Here is a pic on our way at a quick stop at Walmart. I hope everyone enjoys their Memorial Day Weekend!Click image for larger version

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Old 05-23-2013, 07:54 PM   #15
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I disagree, how would installing another cooler not help? jmo
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Sidenote on the original post, where I observed seeing transmission fluid temp of 217 on a 95 degree day. Three mechanics I've spoken to don't think that installing another external cooler will help much (the truck has the trailering package, with external transmission oil cooler); they all think I need to move up to a 3/4 ton truck. And, after weighing the truck enroute to pick up the trailer, I know we're going to be overweight. TV is rated to 7000 GVWR, CAT scale weight showed 6900 lbs with nothing hooked on, or in the bed. Given that Jayco calculates a fully loaded White Hawk throws 975 lbs to the TV, I'm guessing we'd be overweight by at least that much, even with nothing more in the bed of the truck. Consequently, I'm looking to trade the 1/2 ton for a 3/4 ton Chevy gas truck. They are rated to 9500 GVWR, and should easily accommodate our TT and anything I want to throw in the bed. Of course, it will cost $$, but I'd rather err on the side of safety. ...
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My 27 DSRL has a toungue weight of 720 lbs from CAT scale. Trailer axle weight of 5960. Total trailer weight of 6680. Weight from factory was 5834. So additional cargo is about 850 with a half tank of freshwater accounting for about 150# of that weight. Very surprised that your truck is at at GVWR with nothing in it. Somethin' ain't right! My whole rig is 12400 with GCVWR 16000. However it would seem that you are wize in getting a bigger truck.
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Thanks, kris12302, for the link to the Derale Atomic Transmission cooler. I'll check that out. But, the problem remains that my Silverado 1500 still weighs 6900 lbs with me and a buddy in the cab; nothing in the bed. GVWR for the truck is 7000 lbs. Adding a fully loaded White Hawk 27 DSRL with 900 lbs of tongue weight puts the truck over recommended weight rating by 800 lbs. And this doesn't count anything thrown in the bed of the truck. I think this gets us back to the point of the manufacturers using the "BASE" truck for weight; and in my case, our truck is very far from base: it is a LWB Extended cab with 4WD, meaning it has the 34 gallon gas tank as opposed to the 24 gallon on non-LWB trucks; plus the weight of the 4x4 gear and the extended cab. I've also added a Ranchhand replacement front end, plus RH headache rack, and toolbox.

Total weight of the truck and TT coming back from Middlebury was 12,620, well within total GCWR of 15,000; but still over the recommended weight for the pickup.

If we weren't traveling over the continental divide this summer, I wouldn't worry as much; but we are; so I will look at the 3/4 ton truck.
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Sidenote on the original post, where I observed seeing transmission fluid temp of 217 on a 95 degree day. Three mechanics I've spoken to don't think that installing another external cooler will help much (the truck has the trailering package, with external transmission oil cooler); they all think I need to move up to a 3/4 ton truck. And, after weighing the truck enroute to pick up the trailer, I know we're going to be overweight. TV is rated to 7000 GVWR, CAT scale weight showed 6900 lbs with nothing hooked on, or in the bed. Given that Jayco calculates a fully loaded White Hawk throws 975 lbs to the TV, I'm guessing we'd be overweight by at least that much, even with nothing more in the bed of the truck. Consequently, I'm looking to trade the 1/2 ton for a 3/4 ton Chevy gas truck. They are rated to 9500 GVWR, and should easily accommodate our TT and anything I want to throw in the bed. Of course, it will cost $$, but I'd rather err on the side of safety. ...
That's what we ended up doing. I was worried that we would be asking for trouble if we tried to tow across the Rockies with the 1/2ton. Tows much better with the 3/4 ton. Interesting is that my milage is averaging 1 mpg less unloaded and one mpg better towing with the 3/4 ton.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #20
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Found a new 2012 GMC Sierra 2500 4WD Ext Cab Long Box at a local dealer for $10K off the $41K price tag. Will pick it up Wednesday. Time to remove all the goodies off the current truck. . ..
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