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Old 10-02-2013, 11:55 AM   #11
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thanks for link.

I don't know,looks like this camper is not for me.
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Old 10-02-2013, 01:05 PM   #12
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I got some answers from etrailer.com guys:

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You have a couple of options. First you could try to move weight towards the back of the trailer to try to reduce the tongue weight. Or you could go with a lighter trailer. Weight distribution only maximizes how much weight a trailer hitch can tow, it will not increase the capacity of the hitch or vehicle. If the hitch or vehicle is rated for 450 pounds tongue weight maximum then that is set in stone.

However, if the hitch and vehicle have a separate capacity for use with weight distribution it will generally be higher than the regular weight carrying capacity and it may not be an issue. Check the hitch for a sticker and the vehicle owners manual to see if there is a different rating for weight distribution.

If it does max out at 450 pounds then really the best bet is a lighter trailer. You could easily end up overloading the vehicle since it is so close.

If the hitch and vehicle are rated for use with weight distribution then you need the total tongue weight which is the tongue weight of the trailer when loaded and ready to tow plus the weight of anything loaded behind the rear axle of the tow vehicle. A system rated for 200 to 600 pounds should be all you need.
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #13
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Hi kurens,
Sorry I am just getting back to you, I was camping and didn't have internet.
I see the guys already directed you to my CAT scale thread.
As you can see, I got the tongue weight down to 540lbs only loaded to about 3300lbs

I also changed my factory hitch to one rated at 600lbs versus factory at 500lbs

These TT's are like a big parachute behind an SUV. I made a long trip, but won't due it again until I get a full size truck.
The wheelbase is very limiting.

I think you would be pushing it with the 165 on that Crossover. JMHO

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Old 10-02-2013, 06:00 PM   #14
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thanks everybody for help....I think 1809s will be better choice.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:56 PM   #15
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I think you're fishing in the right pond with a 3,200-3,500# loaded TT.....now - just get that tongue weight under your max and you'll be fine for doing the type of camping your talking about.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #16
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I think you're fishing in the right pond with a 3,200-3,500# loaded TT.....now - just get that tongue weight under your max and you'll be fine for doing the type of camping your talking about.
My question is how to get this tongue weight under maxIf we speaking about m-165.

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I can pack all my cargo in shower tub/rear part of bunk....need tongue scale for sure
Will take out 3rd row seats from Flex,can buy better receiver and WD for sure...is it enough?

Or this trailer is simple not for me
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My question is how to get this tongue weight under max
Short answer = move the axle forward....lol

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I can pack all my cargo in shower tub/rear part of bunk....need tongue scale for sure
Will take out 3rd row seats from Flex,can buy better receiver and WD for sure...is it enough?
Looks like your working out the long answer....If you understand the limitations and are willing to live with the minor inconveniences (as you mention above) then I believe you have it licked.

I'm in (roughly) the same boat...got tow capacity room (2,900# / 3,500#), but maxed out on the tongue weight (300#). I have been tweaking the set-up for two years....the ride is much more confident and enjoyable then when I started. Yet still....I am very aware of my limitations.
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My question is how to get this tongue weight under maxIf we speaking about m-165.

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I can pack all my cargo in shower tub/rear part of bunk....need tongue scale for sure
Will take out 3rd row seats from Flex,can buy better receiver and WD for sure...is it enough?

Or this trailer is simple not for me
Simply not the trailer for you. Even if you could address the tongue weight, the 35 sq. ft. Frontal area is something you can't do anything about. Although not certain, I think it would be pretty easy to have 45-50 sq ft of frontal with that TT.
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Ok will look into something smaller.
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Simply not the trailer for you. Even if you could address the tongue weight, the 35 sq. ft. Frontal area is something you can't do anything about.
I would verify this between your owners manual and Ford Customer Service. Local Ford Dealers like to sell trucks....

I don't get pushed around or sucked-in by passing trucks at any speed....my gas mileage suffers no more than most of the people on this list while towing...I don't buy "frontal sq ft" as a sole reason to disqualify towing a TT when all your other ratios are well within spec.....but that's just me - YMMV
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