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Old 09-23-2013, 07:41 AM   #11
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We've been out when temps have hit the teens both when we had our FW and now with the MH. All we use is electric heaters and the heat strip in the a/c. As was mentioned if you don't have a heated water hose definitely disconnect and work off the tank. I don't leave the sewer hose connected either since those are more suseptible to cracking in the cold.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #12
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If you have a newer camper,plumbed with pecs pip,you don't have near the chance of freeze busting a water line.I think its good to 20 below or so.
I plumbed our horse barn with it and never winterize, just gravity drain.Freezes all the time and has never split.I'd be more more concerned about drain traps and tanks but if it only gets to 25 for an hour or 2 there shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:04 AM   #13
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The wind is probably our biggest enemy in colder temperatures.
Why?
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A heated undercarrage means that one of the heat ducts is opened into the area around the water tank. To work, you have to run the furnace as thats the only way to push heat down there. Somebody already answered the ?? about "Why space heaters", but I'll do it again. My propane is expensive and their electric comes with the campsite. Free is better. The crazy thing I discovered long ago when fall camping in Indiana state parks was that they drop the rates to off season prices when everyone cranks the electric heaters. Well back in the day, our pop up didn't have air so it was just lights and microwave in the summer. We will run 2 space heaters, one in the main area and a second back in the bedroom beginning about an hour before bedtime. In our previous TT, the 2 heater kept us toasty with temps down in the low 20"s. If colder, we set the tstat on the furnace to kick in if the temp fell below our comfort zone. Never really worried about the stuff below the floor and never had a problem.

Keep a small 12V compressor handy when cold weather camping. You can blow out the lines in less than 5 minutes once you get the hang of it. The water heater won't freeze if it is heated. I've even pulled into a rest area along the interstate on the way back to the midwest in late Feb and blew out the lines while the wife walked the dogs.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:46 PM   #15
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The wind will freeze water quicker in freezing temperatures
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The wind will freeze water quicker in freezing temperatures
The wind does not affect liquids that are not exposed to wind (in containers). Here is a quote from NOAA's site.
What is Wind Chill Temperature?
It is the temperature it “feels like” outside and is based on the rate of heat loss from exposed skin caused by the effects of wind and cold. As the wind increases, the body is cooled at a faster rate causing the skin temperature to
drop. Wind Chill does not impact inanimate objects like car radiators and exposed water pipes, because these objects cannot cool below the actual air temperature.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/windchill...l-brochure.pdf
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I found NOAS question and answer on the web and it reads "The only effect wind chill has on inanimate objects, such as car radiators and water pipes , is to shorten the amount of time for the object to cool." So from that I gather it would take less time to cool the pipes in windy conditions as apposed to no wind. I realize the outside temperature has to be below freezing to freeze.
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Correct on the wind causing things to freeze up in a shorter period of time. The surface temp of the object will never drop below the actual air temp, but the wind will increase the heat transfer in the same way that passing air thru the radiator of a truck will cool the water in an engine faster than if the truck/fan was not moving air thru it.

Blow on the top of that piping hot cup of coffee for a few seconds and then see if the top layer is a bit easier on the lips.
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