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Old 04-02-2018, 08:50 PM   #1
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How to install Furrion observation camera on 2018 Jayco 174BH

Well I was asking, but there wasn't anything so...I just dug in and did it. I got the rear wall structural drawing from Jayco and below the center marker light there is a crossbeam which concerned me. Turns out it's not bad. You can feel where it is by pressing on the wall.

Hopefully this will help people with installing on this model, and it will probably work the same for other models. I'm hoping that this write up makes things very clear for others looking to do this. This will be a bit of a long post, and the images are larger but that way there is a good view.

Tools/Supplies Needed:
  • Utility or other knife
  • Philips Screwdriver
  • Flathead Screwdriver
  • Drill
  • Drill Bits
  • 3/4" or so Hole Saw
  • Fish Tape
  • Needle Nose Pliers
  • Wire Cutters
  • Wire Crimpers (If using crimp on connectors)
  • Wire strip tool (Optional, but I love these things)
  • Soldering Iron (Optional)
  • Electrical Tape
  • Posi-Tap or other wire tap device
  • Self-Tapping Screws
  • Wood Screws
  • Outdoor Clear Silicone Sealant
  • Disposable Latex Gloves (For working silicone sealant)

The first thing you need to do is use a utility knife or other knife to cut the silicone sealant on the top of the center marker light. Be careful and just use light pressure. Once that is done you can pry on the bottom with a screwdriver. You can use a spare rag to place on the back of the camper so you don't pry on the panel and scrape it. You can see where to pry if you look from the bottom.

Here is the marker removed and wires pulled out:



As you can see, there is no extra wiring for an always on connection, so the camera will run off of the running lights. This is fine with me. The red/green wires are positive, with the white being negative. The next thing to do is to decide where to mount the camera.

With the wires pulled out, you can feel inside and you should be able to feel the crossbeam. The siding isn't attached or glued to the crossbeam here and if you push from inside you can feel the panel push away from the crossbeam.

Now on this one the panel is ribbed and I could kind of count how many ribs down it was by feeling inside. Then since I knew the beam was 1 1/8" thick from the structural drawing, I could measure down so that I could do two things:

1 - My hole would not hit the crossbeam.

2 - I would be able to screw into the crossbeam with the upper two screws of the camera mount and ensure that it would stay securely mounted.

Here's the measurements from the center of the center marker hole:





The new hole center is about 4 3/32" from the center marker light. Other models are different, so get a structural drawing from Jayco if you can.

I used a 3/4" hole saw for the hole. The provided grommet with the Furrion would be too small to be able to get your finger or fish tape through.

The next thing to do after your hole is drilled, is to fish the wire through. String the wire through the included mount piece - I think it's silicone or something like that. Next use a fish tape to go down from the top center marker hole to your new hold. While you push it down, pull outwards slightly on the rear panel from the new hole or center marker hole to help the tape get past the crossbeam.

Here's the fish tape. I used needle nose pliers to pull it through the hole:



Use some electrical tape to tape the camera power wire to the fish tape and then pull it back out the upper hole.

The next thing to do is to connect the camera power wire to the positive and negative wires for the center marker lights. I pulled out some additional wire and used Posi-Tap's to accomplish this using some spare wire I had to bridge between the Posi-Tap and the camera wire. I did this because the camera wire is so small for that size of Posi-Tap.

Next what you want to do is strip the end of your bridge wire and attach them to the camera power wires, being careful not to touch them together.

Posi-Taps installed:



IMPORTANT: Now is the time to test the camera! Not later! At this point I hooked up my truck to the 7-Pin connector on the trailer, and connected the camera and followed the instructions to pair the camera. It worked great! So we can continue.

Now that I know the camera works, I then used electrical tape to tape the Posi-Tap up so nothing will come loose. I also then soldered the bridge wire and camera power wires together. You can use whatever connection method you like. Once they cooled, more electrical tape.





Now you need to stuff all the wires and connectors back into the center marker light area. With the large Posi-Taps it was a bit of a squeeze but it made it.

Here is the center marker reinstalled:





Next, we need to mark where to mount the silicone backer for the camera. I actually just held it where I wanted and drilled through the 4 holes after carefully ensuring the top two would hit the crossbeam. In order for this to work, I had to cut some of the center hole in this silicone piece so that it could be moved up and allow the wire to go through the hole correctly.

Once I had the holes drilled, I filled the new hole with silicone as best as I could, and also around the wire, leaving a little bit to tuck into the back of the camera. Screwed in the camera using wood screws for the top two holes and self-tapping metal screws on the bottom two. It feels nice and secure.

The last thing to do was to silicone around the perimeter of the camera mount, cover the screws, and also redo the silicone on the marker light.

Here it is finished:

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Here's the monitor:

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What is the model of the camera/monitor you installed? How strong is the wireless signal?
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What is the model of the camera/monitor you installed? How strong is the wireless signal?
This one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010XWNFOM

Not sure how to test signal really but it was fine just sitting there. It's a 21 foot trailer so not super long. I haven't driven with it on yet.
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Oh yeah, now that's what I,m talking about, nice job I love mines.
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:55 AM   #7
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Did my first tow with the camera. It did okay but I have one big issue - the suction cup mount that they include is HORRIBLE. There is no possible way to get it mounted in a good position to view the monitor.

I will be fixing that with a RAM X-Grip mount and a A/C Vent mount which only works on certain Tacomas or Tundras:

Un-Holey Dash Mount (Tacoma 2016+ and Tundra 2014+)

Otherwise I would recommend something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/RAM-RAM-B-166.../dp/B00IAC7ZNU
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I just installed a wireless camera on our 2018 17bh, I was originally planning on installing just like you did, but the boss (the wife) was shocked to see i was thinking about putting new holes in our water tight trailer. Instead, I just installed directly over top of the middle marker light (Some mods needed)

See pictures below. The camera was 179.00 on amazon and the signal strength is fantastic.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I just installed a wireless camera on our 2018 17bh, I was originally planning on installing just like you did, but the boss (the wife) was shocked to see i was thinking about putting new holes in our water tight trailer. Instead, I just installed directly over top of the middle marker light (Some mods needed)

See pictures below. The camera was 179.00 on amazon and the signal strength is fantastic.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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And you are now in violation of DOT regulations
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and you are now in violation of dot regulations
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what?
nevermind I got it now after looking at photos
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Nice work! Great write up!
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LOL thats super lame,

Least I didn't wreck the middle marker light and can piece it back together.

Last time I let the wife not let me drill holes in something I just purchased.

Thanks for the heads up, Would hate to have Trump throw me over the northern border wall for something like that

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LOL thats super lame,

Least I didn't wreck the middle marker light and can piece it back together.

Last time I let the wife not let me drill holes in something I just purchased.

Thanks for the heads up, Would hate to have Trump throw me over the northern border wall for something like that

Lol... most likely nobody will pull you over for it but you should be aware.
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Thanks for the idea. Went and ordered from Amazon. Took me about 1 hour to install. Have it about 2 inches above the middle marker light. I was able to pull the siding back with my finger to slide the camera wiring down to the middle light.

My only issue is the signal drops once and a while when driving. Could be local interference since it clears up after a few seconds. Took a few seconds to figure out how to get the view in the monitor correct (not mirrored). The wife now figures I can back into a space 2 feet wider (due to guttering) than the trailer without her help.


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Im sure no one would, but heaven forbid I get rear ended and it turns out to be my fault due to a tiny missing LED light.

I wonder if there will be any glare from the centre marker light? I see your camera has a little hood over it.
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Im sure no one would, but heaven forbid I get rear ended and it turns out to be my fault due to a tiny missing LED light.

I wonder if there will be any glare from the centre marker light? I see your camera has a little hood over it.
Yeah it's also why you might it before the light, the good helps. I don't know with what you have.
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Im sure no one would, but heaven forbid I get rear ended and it turns out to be my fault due to a tiny missing LED light.

I wonder if there will be any glare from the centre marker light? I see your camera has a little hood over it.
Why are you worried about being rear ended with a rear view camera? Does that mean it's your fault if you have a backup camera on your TV? No way!!!
Besides almost any location I'm aware of the car that rear ends another is the primary cause of an accident. Having been rear ended twice in 50 years (woman reaching back to swat her kids while I was stopped at for a red light and some stupid lawyer who was on his way to court and busy texting to defend (NO JOKE) a defendant who rear ended a squad car while texting). Never asked if I had a backup camera on my vehicles. Both drivers were ticketed and their insurance companies paid for damages, injuries, lost wages, etc.

Being able to see when you backup has nothing to do with who caused an accident, unless you are the one who backed into someone.

Besides, if the clown that rear ends you can see that tiny LED, then they are too close.
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Im Canadian who has been living in the states for 3 years (no offence) In a country/state where people throw "Stuff" at a wall to see what sticks.... I don't need "he had the wrong maker lights" against me


To me its drinking a few beers working out side, while I listen to my son enjoys a juice box trying to figure out how to tighten his plastic lug nuts on his power wheels.
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