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Old 05-02-2014, 09:24 PM   #1
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Jay Feather Ultra Lite X213 vs X23B

Hi, Not an owner yet, but getting close. Just returned from dealer this evening and conversing with my wife. Basically we have the following questions:

1) Can anyone comment on differences between X213 and X23B in terms of the hard side (the former) versus the expandable slide out (the latter). Specifically the ability to hold heat. A bit of background, we are in Colorado and while we don't expect to be doing a lot of 'cold weather' camping, fact is we may experience unseasonable cold at altitude. What is helpful is how much if any heat loss would one model vs. another expose us to? Do the heated mattresses on the expandable along with the heater keep the inside warm enough at freezing temperatures?

2) Any concerns with X23B (expandable bed slide out) regarding durability? Leaks?

3) Any concerns with setup, specifically the X23B in setting up the expandable beds for my wife? She has concerns about how physical that may be if I'm not around.

I realize some of the questions might be best posed to the sale rep, but these were just questions we brainstormed after our visit this evening. Much appreciated! -Brad

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Old 05-02-2014, 10:08 PM   #2
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We have a 2011 x20e, which is the smaller brother of the x23b. No leaks on the bunk ends. Opening is easy, however the beds are a bit heavy when closing, especially if your wife is doing it without any help to tuck in the canvas. With that being said, the hybrid beds really do open up the trailer.

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Old 05-02-2014, 10:47 PM   #3
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We have a 23B absolutely love it. The tent ends are a little cool early/late season. At that time of year we always get an electric site. We added after market mattress pad heaters. They take care the chill of sleeping at the outer edge. We have camped in as low as the low 20s with no issues. We typically use a 1500 watt electric heater in the cool season, as electric is prepaid and propane cost me. We do turn on the propane furnace in the mornings sometimes.

As for making the beds we tag team it. The DW is inside and I am outside. I unzip the emergency exit Window (end window). I tuck in the covers from outside and she does the inside edges. Works great and we are done really quickly.
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:17 PM   #4
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I guess you're looking for more info on the 23B, but as far as the 213 goes, we find it to be a great unit. We have used it in early spring and late fall here in Ontario, Canada and we find the hard slide out to be very comfortable. There are no condensation issues, plus it is fairly warm.

We wanted the hard slide vs. the expandable because we have young kids who go to bed on time. If we are sitting by the fire after they go to bed, they can't hear us. Plus as the time when we bought it, we had a toddler and we had another baby after we bought it, so our thought was that if the baby is screaming, at least the who campground doesn't need to hear it.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:57 PM   #5
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We went with the x213, it is definitely a better option for cold weather since the slide is insulated, definitely extends our camping season.
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