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Old 12-13-2013, 08:49 AM   #1
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Jayco x213 owners .. what is your average loaded tongue weight?

Looking for any owners who can provide what their average loaded tongue weight is for their Jayco x213. The 2014 site states the unloaded hitch weight around 330# which is actually less than the x18D at 400# with 900# less of gross vehicle weight. I know the rule of thumb is 10-15% but would like some real world experiences. Thanks!
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:53 AM   #2
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Looking for any owners who can provide what their average loaded tongue weight is for their Jayco x213. The 2014 site states the unloaded hitch weight around 330# which is actually less than the x18D at 400# with 900# less of gross vehicle weight. I know the rule of thumb is 10-15% but would like some real world experiences. Thanks!
bbohio,

I'm looking at the exact same trailer. I'm extremely limited in tongue weight because my tow vehicle has very little remaining payload capacity. Manufacturer's claimed weight and the actual weight are very different. You will want to look at the Federally mandated "yellow sticker" on the trailer that gives actual as-built weight, then add cargo and calculate 10-15% for tongue weight.

I've seen "yellow sticker" weights of 4258 and 4300 lbs weights for the X213 (not including cargo).

A 2011 Trailer Life article reviewing the X213 with water and propane puts the weight at 4680lbs with a tongue weight of 560 lbs. Quite a bit more than the claimed 330 lbs!

Remember, as soon as you put propane and a battery on the front of the A-frame, you'll add 100-150lbs to the tongue weight.
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Jayco includes full propane bottles in their yellow sticker weight. Also the frame has been changed on the 14s to lighten things up.
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:24 AM   #4
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Jayco includes full propane bottles in their yellow sticker weight. Also the frame has been changed on the 14s to lighten things up.
s1njin,

Do you have your yellow sticker weight handy? I'm looking at a 2014 and was curious about the weight since you said that they are lighter now.

Thanks!
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:50 AM   #5
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s1njin,

Do you have your yellow sticker weight handy? I'm looking at a 2014 and was curious about the weight since you said that they are lighter now.

Thanks!
I took a picture of a 2014 yellow stickers (there are 2 of them) at the PA camper show. The weight was 4258.

x213 Photos from the show

Still doesn't state the actual loaded tongue weight, which I also would like to know.

John
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:55 AM   #6
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s1njin,

Do you have your yellow sticker weight handy? I'm looking at a 2014 and was curious about the weight since you said that they are lighter now.

Thanks!
Mine is on order. One of the changes to 2014 from 2013 is the Norco NextGen frame; which is lighter than the outgoing one. That's the only reason that I know.
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I took a picture of a 2014 yellow stickers (there are 2 of them) at the PA camper show. The weight was 4258.

x213 Photos from the show

Still doesn't state the actual loaded tongue weight, which I also would like to know.

John
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As to the OP's quesition, I already own a Sherline Tongue Weight Scale (1000); I plan on getting the TW of the trailer the day I bring it home from the dealer, and than after its packed and ready to camp (save a fridge of groceries and clothing duffles). I'll post back my results in the Spring.
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Still doesn't state the actual loaded tongue weight, which I also would like to know.
Actual loaded tongue weight will depend on what you put in the trailer and where you put it. You can't change where you put the water as the tanks are fixed, but everything else can be moved around to get the tongue weight you want (especially with the X213's bunk bed storage area up front).

In the 2011 Trailer Life article, a X213 with just water, propane and (I assume battery) had a tongue weight of 12% (560 lbs). No cargo.

If you put all your cargo up front, then tongue weight will increase. If you put everything in back, tongue weight will decrease. You want to have a minimum of 10% tongue weight. More tongue weight will increase trailer stability. Less tongue weight will make it more likely to sway and behave poorly.

The X213 has a really, really light "brochure" tongue weight of 330 lbs. This is probably because without propane, battery, spare tire and other stuff on the front of the A-frame, the huge rear slide-out makes the trailer tail heavy. Putting all the real-world stuff on the trailer will give a more realistic and stable-towing tongue weight.

Do not figure a tongue weight less than 10% of the total trailer weight unless your tow vehicle massively outweighs the trailer, has a long wheel base, short tow-vehicle rear-axle to hitch distance and you drive slowly in non-windy conditions. It will sway. The more weight over 10%, the more safety margin you'll have in regards to sway.
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Mine is on order. One of the changes to 2014 from 2013 is the Norco NextGen frame; which is lighter than the outgoing one. That's the only reason that I know.
I hope the new frame works out. In my research, the Forest River Roos/Shamrocks had frame failure problems. The Outback Terrains also had structural issues. Forest River has stopped producing any trailers with the rear slide out. Jayco was the only manufacturer that didn't have frame/structure issues with the huge rear slide out. I hope the new frame is as good as the old frame.

I'm planning a 6-month trip and the thing that worries me the most is the rear slide out. Lots of deploying and retracting that slide in 6 months of camping.
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