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Old 08-17-2015, 09:36 AM   #1
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Realistic weights on the X213 or X254 for towing?

Hi there,

I've done a bunch of searching but I'd love some real life accounts and experienced towing know-how.

We have a 2014 F150. Ecoboost, XTR, super crew cab. 3.73 axle ratio, short wheel base. Payload is 1377lbs. Towing according to the Ford charts is 9600. (website chart is different from PDF chart I found, and both are a bit confusing but I'm about 80% certain on that and will verify)

Obviously payload is going to be the kicker here.

Family of 4. 2 average adults, 2 small kids, and a dog. We're currently towing an 8 foot Flagstaff tent trailer with thoughts of upgrading.

Heavy considerations are the X213 and the X254. Really, we'd love the X254. The 4 bunks in front would give us more room for eventual kids' friends. The X213 is a little bit lighter and is shorter.

Using the website for the 2016, the GVWR for the X254 is 5995lbs. The GVWR for the X213 is 5500lbs.

The supposed dry hitch weight for the X254 is 625lbs. Realistically on a 6000lb gross trailer, I figure we may be up to the 800s, but here's where I am wondering about real life accounts. Am I too close to my payloads with these? I know I need to factor in a WDH, too.

I really want to get away from canvas.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:42 AM   #2
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Welcome!

You're doing your homework. Good for you! That's real close though. And keep in mind your kids are growing. Check your Ford owners manual for the correct weight information to make sure. Online resources are often inaccurate.

I know you want to get away from canvas, but unless your reason is because of noise, you might want to consider a hybrid. Not at all the same as closing up a pop-up.
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:18 AM   #3
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Thanks! Will check the manual for towing weights. They payload is straight off the door sticker so I do trust that.

Noise is part of it. Currently my tent trailer is halfway raised in my garage just to dry it out after another wet, cold, noisy weekend.

So... I am very agreeable to other models, but I'm just kind of tired of canvas.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:09 PM   #4
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I tow my X254 with my Ram 1500 with no problem if that helps. Definitely get a a WDH and you'll be fine.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:29 PM   #5
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Thanks BigT. Any chance you know your hitch weight offhand?

There are so many awesome trailers out there, but they're all right at that borderline of where I know the numbers tell me we should be.

We've even gone so far as talking about upgrading to a 250 to have more options....but I like my truck!
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:22 PM   #6
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I pull my X213 with an 04 Ram with about 800 lbs in my truck plus my wife and I. I have a 8600 lb tow capacity. I have a WDH and a prodigy brake controller. It pulls great!
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:34 AM   #7
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The tongue weight on our X213 is about 770# once loaded. We've got 5 people in the truck (500# but 2 of the kids are still little and growing). Our payload is 1527#. We've got the 3.73 axle and Max Tow option on ours so not sure if our rear axle handles more than yours or not. Our rear axle allows 4050#. Last trip we weighed and the rear axle was at 3958. The truck weighed 7450 when hitched up. GVWR is 7650.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:40 AM   #8
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We tow our X254 with a Ford Expedition 3.73. Our payload is a bit higher at 1700 and our tow rating is lower at 8950. We have 4 kids 16 and down + two dogs. I factored in the 800 lbs tongue weight if we ever did fill to the gvwr and we would be right at the limits of our payload if we did. So far so good but only have had it out on one trip so far. Have not hit the scales yet so I don't have real world numbers for you, sorry. I do know I would like a TV upgrade someday but this works for the time being.
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:35 AM   #9
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Thanks! Yeah that 770# is my concern .

I do have the towing package, but not max tow, which is likely part of the difference. (Hard to tell exactly, I'd have to pull the sale sheet, but missing the upgraded bumper for sure)

I think the x213 is likely the safer choice. I haven't found anything even in other models/makes that is around that weight.
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Thanks BigT. Any chance you know your hitch weight offhand?

There are so many awesome trailers out there, but they're all right at that borderline of where I know the numbers tell me we should be.

We've even gone so far as talking about upgrading to a 250 to have more options....but I like my truck!
I don't but my payload is lower than yours and it's not an issue.
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