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Old 06-25-2015, 11:52 AM   #11
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there is a pin with washers on it to set the angle of the WD hitch, I'm guessing It might of moved when I was flipping over the shank, can that make a big difference? I thought it was only for small adjustments?
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Old 06-25-2015, 02:26 PM   #12
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Can you do a hooked up and unhooked up front fender measurement to see if you are getting your front axle weight returned?

1. Measure front fender height from ground without trailer attached.
2. Measure fender height after attaching trailer but without bars engaged.
3. Engage bars and measure again.

1 and 3 should be very close if the WDH is setup properly. The rear will still of sagged a bit. Measurement 2 should be higher (larger) than 1 and 3.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:27 PM   #13
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I added an extra washer to the pin that set the angle of the bars, retighented everything, and cars was about half an inch lower in the back then normal, so a lot better than the 3 inches it was before! now that the air bags are in with minimal pressure, I just need to dial in the perfect pressure and it should be level...


we arrive at the camping for the maiden voyage, 60 miles, went perfect, no sway, 55mph all the way


Only bad thing, my mileage went from 20 mpg to 10mpg.


thanks all for the help!
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:21 PM   #14
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Glad all went well for you
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:57 AM   #15
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your tongue weight flex's with the amount of weight loaded into the trailer... it is actually a math calculation, roughly 10% of what ever the trailer weight is. it would be easier to google it than for me to try to explain it....
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Old 07-12-2015, 12:35 AM   #16
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Two things for you. I have a 165BH. Weighs 3050 loaded with a tongue weight of 415lbs., actual weights from CAT scale. I pulled it with a V6 Ford Escape. 3500 lbs tow capacity. This pulled it ok but not great. Really strained to reach 60mph. Fuel mileage went from close to 30 to 12. I bought a cheap Chevy Suburban. (Only get 9mpg towing) What a difference that made towing. No more white knuckle towing and a whole lot less bounce going down the road. Towed 900 Miles each way a few months ago with no issues. Almost forgot it was back there at 65mph. I'm not afraid to use the Escape for short trips (less than 100 miles) but ain't no way I would use it for a long haul or in mountains. These smaller vehicles will do it but be careful. They are at their limits. Watch all your temps and use whatever device Toyota has to keep it out of overdrive. Limit the gear hunt. Rather run it higher RPM than constantly shifting gears.

Next, how hard was the axle flip? Been thinking about doing it for a year now. Do I need any special tools or kit to do the job. How long did it take? I'm pretty handy(marine engine mechanic) but I've never messed with suspensions before. What would I need to look at for trouble issues? What gave you trouble?
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Two things for you. I have a 165BH. Weighs 3050 loaded with a tongue weight of 415lbs., actual weights from CAT scale. I pulled it with a V6 Ford Escape. 3500 lbs tow capacity. This pulled it ok but not great. Really strained to reach 60mph. Fuel mileage went from close to 30 to 12. I bought a cheap Chevy Suburban. (Only get 9mpg towing) What a difference that made towing. No more white knuckle towing and a whole lot less bounce going down the road. Towed 900 Miles each way a few months ago with no issues. Almost forgot it was back there at 65mph. I'm not afraid to use the Escape for short trips (less than 100 miles) but ain't no way I would use it for a long haul or in mountains. These smaller vehicles will do it but be careful. They are at their limits. Watch all your temps and use whatever device Toyota has to keep it out of overdrive. Limit the gear hunt. Rather run it higher RPM than constantly shifting gears.

Next, how hard was the axle flip? Been thinking about doing it for a year now. Do I need any special tools or kit to do the job. How long did it take? I'm pretty handy(marine engine mechanic) but I've never messed with suspensions before. What would I need to look at for trouble issues? What gave you trouble?
the escape V6 has 203 hp, vs the rav4's 269hp, those exta 66hp make a big difference since I have no difficulty accellerating. the transmission oil temperature is the only problem I found, with even with the towing package and it's extra oil cooler, I was seeing over 200F with my scangauge. Installed a 14.4btu cooler and temps without towing dropped by 35F (should be the same when towing).

the axle flip was pretty easy with the dexter kit, took about 2 hours to do the actual job. took me more time because I decide to change out the nylon spring bushings and I damaged one of the eye bolts. you don't need to weld the spring mounts, but for peace of mind, they recommend doing a couple of spot welds to make sure they never move.

just don't make the same mistake as me when you re-setup your wd hitch after the axle is flipped, I messed up the angles when raising the hitch... reason I started this thread originally
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Did the flip give you enough clearance? Basically is it worth it? I sweat every time I take it to a certain lake with a pot holed dirt road and Into some gas stations.
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Did the flip give you enough clearance? Basically is it worth it? I sweat every time I take it to a certain lake with a pot holed dirt road and Into some gas stations.
It gave me almost 5 inches more, best mod for the price and peace of mind of not worrying about ripping the tank valves
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Thanks...if I keep mine through the winter this will be one of my projects. I'm 50/50whether to do some things(gut the bathroom and redo the roof scale and paint the frame) or get another one. I want a new one, wife says we don't have any money.
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