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Old 06-25-2015, 06:08 AM   #1
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SLX 154bh axle flip, more tongue weight?

I finished the axle flip on my new to me 154bh, attached the TT to the TW, set up the WD hitch (with the new height setting to make the TT level) and now the rear end of my Rav4 is sagging. When I first picked up the TT, I didn't notice any sagging.

did raising the TT 4 inches cause more weight on the tongue? only other thing is that the water heater was now full (6gallon)

I'm having inflatable helper springs installed today, hopefully that will fix the problem for our maiden voyage tonight!
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:03 AM   #2
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What is the actual tongue weight on the TT?
What are the weight limits for the Rav4? both Trailer weight and Tongue weights?


Just from taking a quick look at the specs for the TT and TV I think you are pushing your luck. Plus raising the TT 4 inches will have an affect on the center of gravity on the TT.


Wish you luck with your maiden voyage.


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Old 06-25-2015, 08:07 AM   #3
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TT: TW about 350lbs Total weight under 3000lbs loaded
TV: 3500lbs / 500lbs with WD hitch, I have 400-600lbs bars on the wd hitch
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:46 AM   #4
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Are those your actual weights?

The search I did showed 3500 lbs max towing capacity w/tow package and 350 lbs max tongue weight w/tow package for the V6 engine
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:56 AM   #5
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tongue weight was 280 when I got it last week, with empty propane and water heater, now I have 20 lbs more for propane and 6 gallons of water 50lbs, so I'm guessing it's close to 350.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:07 AM   #6
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the following was copied from the 2012 Rav4 owners manual


Page #267
Towing capacity
Toyota does not recommend towing a trailer with your vehicle.


Page #273
Toyota does not recommend towing a trailer with your vehicle.


Toyota also does not recommend the installation of a tow hitch or


the use of a tow hitch carrier for a wheelchair, scooter, bicycle, etc.


Your vehicle is not designed for trailer towing or for the use of tow


hitch mounted carriers.








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Old 06-25-2015, 09:17 AM   #7
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Not trying to burst your bubble But just giving my opinion for your safety and the safety of your passengers. The fact that you raised the TT 4 inches would be a concern.


I was lucky years ago and walked away from a TT that jack-knifed and flipped onto its side. "I wasn't the driver" But I will tell you this It's something I hope I and others never have to experience


I don't know if your TT has electric brakes but if it does I hope you have them hooked up.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:42 AM   #8
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thanks for your concern,


but the Rav4 V6 with towing package is rated at 3500lbs towing, the guy I bought it from had the same SUV to pull it and had no problems at all towing it...


the axle flip is a factory option, the "BAJA" edition of the same trailer has the axle flip from the factory, so I'm not worried about safety, it's a low trailer even with the axle flip, electric brakes are in good working condition.


my owners manual states 1500lbs for the 4 cylinder, 2000lbs for the V6 without towing package, and 3500lbs for V6 with towing package. The text posted about not being a TV is most likely for a Corrola or Prius
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You are correct and I stand corrected The owners manual that I copied was for the Rav4 EV


Although I do feel that you are approaching your limits.


Enjoy your maiden voyage
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:42 AM   #10
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The axle flip should not have changed anything. What probably changed is the setup of your WDH. Sounds like it is not adjusted as well as it was previously.

If the trailer was level, before and after, the tongue weight will not change. But if you dismantled the WDH you will need to readjust it.

Theoretically if you raised the trailer 4" and the hitch head 4" they should still be in correct adjustment/alignment but......
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