|
11-26-2022, 12:32 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: RV
Posts: 893
|
DC to DC Battery Charging
Can I install a 20 amp DC to DC charger in my travel trailer storage bay and connect it to my lithium batteries, while using the charging line that is in my Tundra trailer plug?
Any better ideas?
Thanks
__________________
Sold RV.... downsized to a 6x12 cargo trailer with Starlink and mini-split A/C. Easy to tow at 1200# - real happy now.
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 04:37 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 2,933
|
What are you trying to accomplish? There isn't much current coming through the trailer plug.
__________________
2017 JayFlight 21QB
2021 Ford F150 SCrew 3.5 Eco, 157”, 3.55, Tow Pkg
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 05:08 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: RV
Posts: 893
|
Very simple.... charge two lithium batteries while traveling.
__________________
Sold RV.... downsized to a 6x12 cargo trailer with Starlink and mini-split A/C. Easy to tow at 1200# - real happy now.
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 05:26 PM
|
#4
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Central PA
Posts: 53
|
Its likely that the 12v feed wire routed to your 7 way is not large enough gauge to handle a 20amp DC to DC charger. If you are lucky, it might be 12 or 14 gauge , maybe even 16 worse case, if its from the factory. Its used for "trickle" charging basically . A 20amp DC to DC charge wire will likely need to be at least 8-10 gauge depending on the length/run .
I installed a Victron 15amp 12/24 DC to DC charger in our converted van camper, and I ran 8 gauge wire to feed our Yeti 1000. Works great , but the larger gauge wire is needed for higher amperage "fast" charging .
Check and see what gauge wire is feeding your 12v charge port on your 7way .
__________________
2022 Jay Feather Micro 166FBS
2001 Suburban 2500 / 8.1
Andersen 3350D WDH
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 06:02 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: RV
Posts: 893
|
If it's less than a #10 wire I will just run a #6 as I have plenty. Thanks
__________________
Sold RV.... downsized to a 6x12 cargo trailer with Starlink and mini-split A/C. Easy to tow at 1200# - real happy now.
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 06:11 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 2,933
|
If you are simply moving from one point with hookups to a second place with hookups you'll be fine. There isn't much load.
__________________
2017 JayFlight 21QB
2021 Ford F150 SCrew 3.5 Eco, 157”, 3.55, Tow Pkg
|
|
|
11-26-2022, 06:27 PM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: RV
Posts: 893
|
I don't use hookups... solar only when boondocking.
__________________
Sold RV.... downsized to a 6x12 cargo trailer with Starlink and mini-split A/C. Easy to tow at 1200# - real happy now.
|
|
|
11-28-2022, 11:17 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Whitby Ontario
Posts: 575
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverman
I don't use hookups... solar only when boondocking.
|
Your best bet is to run a dedicated line from battery of TV to the DC-DC charger. A 10 gauge wire is good for approx. 80 feet at 20 amps
|
|
|
12-05-2022, 07:14 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Middle, TN
Posts: 1,098
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by billcf7
Your best bet is to run a dedicated line from battery of TV to the DC-DC charger. A 10 gauge wire is good for approx. 80 feet at 20 amps
|
A 20A DC-DC charger will pull more on current on the primary side due to efficiency of the unit. I'd anticipate seeing a 25A+ draw on the primary side.
|
|
|
12-17-2022, 01:52 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: New Freedom, PA
Posts: 791
|
It depends on the wire size.
For example, the charge wire in the Roadmaster umbilical is 14 gauge, so 20 amps would be too much.
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories.../RM-146-7.html
.
__________________
Ron K3HIL Amateur Extra
Retired
2016 Greyhawk 29MV
2000 Jeep Sahara
"Any advice I give or facts I present are valid to the best of my knowledge,
but I am not responsible if you follow it and you **** your **** up."
|
|
|
12-17-2022, 01:56 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 341
|
__________________
Dave and Ivy
2020 North Point 315RLTS
Ram 3500/Aisin CC, SB, SRW, Superglide
Firestone Ride-Rite Air bags, TST507 TPMS
|
|
|
12-18-2022, 07:30 PM
|
#12
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: M-Boro
Posts: 20
|
They sell a 9 amp version. That will work with a 12 ga wire. Most modern trucks have a 12 ga cable for charging in the trailer loom. You won’t know until you check.
|
|
|
12-19-2022, 07:47 AM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Beaufort
Posts: 193
|
If you are trying to charge the lithium battery from the vehicle alternator all you need is a " lithium compatible Combiner 100". It is nearly 100% efficient and will isolate the lithium battery from the lead acid starting battery when the alternator is not running. It also draws no current when idle so it doesn't need an on-off switch like a converter does.
|
|
|
12-19-2022, 02:20 PM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Queen Creek
Posts: 691
|
Do it direct like billcf7 mentioned. Using 6AWG is prob overkill. Just run direct from truck battery to the hitch area. Use anderson power pole plugs. This will allow you to use when you want not etc... Then on trailer route to how/where you need it. Simple and done. Is it totally needed, maybe, but if you always want 100% battery it is nice to have.
__________________
2022 Jay Feather Micro 166FBS
2021 RAM 1500 5.7 eTorque
|
|
|
12-23-2022, 11:42 AM
|
#15
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Broomfield
Posts: 72
|
Riverman, I recently installed a Renogy 40 amp dc to dc charger. The Renogy installation instructions will tell you the recommended wire size. The 40 amp unit requires 4awg size wire so I routed a 4awg welding cable from the truck's positive battery terminal to an anderson connector near the 7 pin but I also put in a 12 volt 60 amp inline circuit breaker-disconnect very close to the positive battery terminal. For the ground I used a short piece from the Anderson connector to a good chassis ground nearby. In addition, I enclosed the entire positive cable with split loom for added protection. Fyi, I got all parts from Amazon.
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|