Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-10-2015, 02:17 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Filthy-Beast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chicago
Posts: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike837go View Post
Are the vent caps over the gas fridge still steel? Would that give enough surface area?
Even if they are that's probably not enough of a ground plane. A ground plane if part of the antenna and helps pull in the signal. It's not just for the magnet to hold to.

for the OP's usage I'd suggest an antenna with built in ground plane and would even think about a telescoping mount hooked to the ladder so that you could get elevation. Lots of Hams use a Flag Pole buddy for this.
__________________

__________________
2015 Jay Flight 31 RLDS
2015 F250, Reese straightline
Ham Lic: W4TFB
Filthy-Beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2015, 02:24 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
mike837go's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Campbell Hall
Posts: 2,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by Filthy-Beast View Post
A ground plane if part of the antenna and helps pull in the signal. It's not just for the magnet to hold to.
I knew that, but at the wavelengths used for satellite communications (under 10cm) how much ground plane do you need?

[I'd like to argue about the ground plane being an integral part of the antenna, but its been way too many years since I had to work the math and physics of converting magnetic waves to electrical signals.]
__________________

__________________
TT 2015 19RD "TheJayco"
TV 2003 F-350 "Montblanc" - Housebroken chore truck


Sitting in The Cheap Seats.
And proud of it!
mike837go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2015, 02:52 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Filthy-Beast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Chicago
Posts: 269
Depends on what frequency the carrier is using for cellular ground based antennas. Cellular frequencies range from 700MHz to about 2170MHz. A full wave length antenna would be 14.6 to 5.4 inches. Depending on the area, AT&T for example, could have LTE on any of the bands.


So if the carrier is operating near 2100Mhz the stubby magnet mount would be close to a 3/4 wave, but if they are using 700Mhz then the stubby would only be a 1/4 wave.
__________________
2015 Jay Flight 31 RLDS
2015 F250, Reese straightline
Ham Lic: W4TFB
Filthy-Beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2015, 04:35 PM   #14
Member
 
alaskahofferts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fairbanks
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlB View Post
Long story short, I have about 30 days to get to Alaska and back, but cannot take that many consequtive days off. As I am in IT presales, I can do a lot over the phone and via webex, so my phone needs to work as well as it can. Yes I realize there are some areas of BC and Yukon where there is absolutely NO coverage, but I should be out of those in a couple days.
Hey CarlB--Just wanted to add that while many of our road systems have cell service it is still wild and remote in some places. I'd say even first couple hundred miles into Alaska your service might be sketchy. There are several places just outside of towns that are "dead zones". It's come a long way up here in the last 20 years, but expect dropped calls. Who is your service provider? We have Verizon up here now but don't believe what the commercials show, they have few of their own towers yet.

Are you coming to Fairbanks at all? What are your plans for your visit?
alaskahofferts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2015, 05:32 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Riverview
Posts: 301
Fairbanks is our primary stopping point followed by Denali, possibly anchorage for a little lollipop route back to the alcan. An army buddy is stationed up there, flying Chinooks, and another Army buddy is over in Anchorage. We are with Verizon. I have told my handlers that there will be a few days where I will be off grid so to speak.
__________________
________
Carl & Dawn
2015 Greyhawk 31FS
2015 Ford Transit Connect (our TOAD on a DEMCO Dolly)
DW, DSx2, DDx2 Catx2 Dog
Tampa Bay Area of FL
CarlB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2015, 01:14 AM   #16
Member
 
alaskahofferts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fairbanks
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlB View Post
Fairbanks is our primary stopping point followed by Denali, possibly anchorage for a little lollipop route back to the alcan. An army buddy is stationed up there, flying Chinooks, and another Army buddy is over in Anchorage. We are with Verizon. I have told my handlers that there will be a few days where I will be off grid so to speak.

Construction is B A D on the Parks Hwy this summer, that takes us to ANC. But it's typical. Maybe we will link up. Be good to meet another forum member up here.
__________________
____________________________________

2015 GMC 3500HD SRW 6.6 CCSB (Daily Driver/TV)
2012 Jayco 25 RKS
Living the dream in AK!
alaskahofferts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2015, 07:57 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dale Hollow Lake Tn/Ky
Posts: 1,941
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlB View Post
Long story short, I have about 30 days to get to Alaska and back, but cannot take that many consequtive days off. As I am in IT presales, I can do a lot over the phone and via webex, so my phone needs to work as well as it can. Yes I realize there are some areas of BC and Yukon where there is absolutely NO coverage, but I should be out of those in a couple days.
Suggestion: For go the trip to Ak until you have the time to enjoy the trip. Sounds like you are facing something like a marathon run. Just doesn't sound like too much fun spending half or more of your trip driving to and from AK while trying to keep up with Business via the phone. I'm not sure any type of ant. will help all that much with cell reception as the ones I'm familiar with only enhance reception by a few miles. Many areas of Canada and remote Ak have dead zones for hundreds of miles. I know sat phones are expensive to operate, but that may be your best alternative.
Bassdogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2015, 08:40 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Riverview
Posts: 301
Its our tenth wedding anniversary, so we had this planned for a little while. As I am not retired, a sabattical or a consequtive 30 day vacation is not an option. I just need to be available one day a week to keep my peers from being overwhelmed, and my account manager from pestering my boss too much.

This may be our first trip to AK, but will not likely be our last.

alaskahofferts - yes that would be cool to meet up if we could.
__________________
________
Carl & Dawn
2015 Greyhawk 31FS
2015 Ford Transit Connect (our TOAD on a DEMCO Dolly)
DW, DSx2, DDx2 Catx2 Dog
Tampa Bay Area of FL
CarlB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2015, 08:51 AM   #19
Member
 
Timon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Tustin
Posts: 51
One other Wilson Trucker antenna is a roof mount. You have to drill a hole from the roof string through to the inside but you normally have the inside part enter into a cabinet. It's 18" tall so you need to place it no higher than 12' off the ground when in travel mode so you stay under 13'6". It comes with bevelled washers to it will mount vertical when near the edge of a curved roof.
__________________
John (N6BER), Joyce, Lucas (Golden Retriever mix) & Bella (Great Pyrenees)
Tustin, CA
Timon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2015, 11:19 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Riverview
Posts: 301
Right now I am not up for new holes in the roof :-)

I will likely get the spring mounted one and attach it to the ladder, running the cable in through the fridge vent. I just have to figure out how to route and mount the rest of it once inside, as well as finding a 12V wire to attach this to in the coach itself.
__________________

__________________
________
Carl & Dawn
2015 Greyhawk 31FS
2015 Ford Transit Connect (our TOAD on a DEMCO Dolly)
DW, DSx2, DDx2 Catx2 Dog
Tampa Bay Area of FL
CarlB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.