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Old 11-23-2014, 02:30 PM   #1
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Help with towing setup

Hi, I have lots of questions about using my 2010 F150 XLT 4x4 to tow my Jayco 165 Jay Feather Sport 2007 TT its GVWR is 3500 lbs; its UVW is 2877 lbs. Most important is that we have a safe towing setup. So, here is what I have:
2010 F-150 XLT 4x4 Super Crew 5.5’ 145” wheel base, v8 4.6L the rear axle ratio 3.55 Non-LS (uploaded picture of door plate)

I don’t know if it has Max towing package; it doesn’t have the extended mirrors,but it does have the Integrated Brake Controller (looks factory installed) and a 7/4 connector beside the hitch. How can I tell what kind of towing package I have? I think the payload is 1315 lbs? Is that right?

The information about the hitch is in the uploaded picture of hitch plate. (under the flash reads Hitch Type)


I have a Reese Tow Power 2” ball mount 2” drop and 3/4 “ rise. It says Class III, Mounting hole 1”, max trailer 6000 lbs, mas tongue 600 lbs. I also have another ball mount, same size, specs, etc, except it says it’s a class V and the capacity is 5000 lbs tongue 500 lbs. Which of these is better to use with my setup?
Do I need weight distribution hitch? Sway bars?
I am so overcome with information and a lot of it conflicts, too -- that its hard to decide what I need to safely tow this TT.
I sure would appreciate any suggestions or any information you can give me.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:46 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum.


"How can I tell what kind of towing package I have?"

You can have the vin decoded by a dealer to see how your truck is equipped. Some trucks also have equipment codes in the glove box that can be decoded with a quick internet search, or on a Ford 150 forum.


"I think the payload is 1315 lbs? Is that right?"

Yes.

"Do I need weight distribution hitch? Sway bars?"

According to your receiver hitch info you cannot surpass 500 lbs tongue weight without using weight distribution. You may come close on this number and even if not, weight distributing with sway control would be a good investment, IMO. If you choose that, it would eliminate the guesswork involved in the other two hitches you mention.


"I am so overcome with information – and a lot of it conflicts, too -- that it’s hard to decide what I need to safely tow this TT."

It sounds overwhelming but its not that bad. You have a very capable tow vehicle for the unit in question. Your truck should tow that trailer well. I`m sure others will chime in as well with more thoughts.
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:42 PM   #3
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Thanks

Thanks so much Crabman! I have decoded the VIN on a F150 forum, but from what I have read it doesn't give me specifics on the tow package. I'll take it to a dealer for more clarification.
It is always good to get input from those who have experience. I'm a real newbie!

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Ives welcome to the group..
Remember to include the weight of the passengers in the vehicle when doing your calculations.. not cargo and hitch weight.
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Clarification, please

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Remember to include the weight of the passengers in the vehicle when doing your calculations.. not cargo and hitch weight.
Seann45, thanks for the info. However, I'm not sure when I have to use passengers (payload?) in my calculations. The weight the hitch can take is approximately 10% of the trailer's total weight, GVWR, right? But that also includes anything behind the rear axle of the truck bed, doesn't it?
Oh, my.
Thanks for any clarification.
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Seann45, thanks for the info. However, I'm not sure when I have to use passengers (payload?) in my calculations. The weight the hitch can take is approximately 10% of the trailer's total weight, GVWR, right? But that also includes anything behind the rear axle of the truck bed, doesn't it?
Oh, my.
Thanks for any clarification.
The weight of passengers and any cargo in the truck or options added is deducted from the available payload. So for example 600lbs of passengers and cargo subtracted from the 1315lbs of available payload leaves you 715 lbs left for tongue weight and anything else.....
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The weight of passengers and any cargo in the truck or options added is deducted from the available payload. So for example 600lbs of passengers and cargo subtracted from the 1315lbs of available payload leaves you 715 lbs left for tongue weight and anything else.....
Thanks Crabman. I think I understand now. So, just to be safe, and while I don't think the tongue weight is close to 500 lbs, I think I will get a WD hitch.
Now to decide what kind of hitch and what weight range the WD needs to be in (how do you figure that one out?).
So many things to consider.
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Found this from Ford: http://www.ford.com/services/assets/...10&postalCode=

In the "packages" section, it lists this for the Max Towing Package:
Max. Trailer Tow Package (req. for towing over 5000 lbs.) —
Includes Class IV trailer hitch receiver; 7-pin wiring harness; upgraded
radiator; auxiliary transmission oil cooler; Trailer Brake Controller;
upgraded rear bumper; upgraded rear springs; heavy-duty front
eye bushing; and trailer tow mirrors (XL Regular Cab and SuperCab;
restrictions apply — see dealer for details)
The other package is:
Trailer Tow Package (req. for towing over 5000 lbs.) — Includes Class IV trailer hitch receiver; 7-pin wiring harness; upgraded radiator;
and auxiliary transmission oil cooler
Brake controller was an item that could be added to the regular tow package, so that probably is what you have if you don't have the big mirrors, and the other beefed up items. But you had to have one of the two packages to get the controller.

From the chart, it looks like the maximum you can pull would be 7,900 with either package. So whichever you have doesn't matter a lot. And don't confuse that with your payload, which is tongue weight and all the other stuff (including passengers) that you put in the truck. That requires the Max. Payload package to increase, which you don't have, as it would have given you the 3.73 transmission...
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Flapper, thanks. I appreciate the link to the '10 F-150 brochure, and the interpretation and information.
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Ives welcome to the group..
Remember to include the weight of the passengers in the vehicle when doing your calculations.. not cargo and hitch weight.
Opps missed on important word in the last line
not just cargo and hitch weight..
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