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Old 09-24-2011, 02:49 PM   #1
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A jayco dealer I want to buy my TT from wants me to use a local businsss to install my brake controller on my 2002 tundra(needs wired from back to front). Thats ok ,but he wants me to use a reese pro series hitch and sway control, what are we thinking? Will be buying in a few months, waiting on retirement. Really like this forum
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Old 09-24-2011, 03:02 PM   #2
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Soooooooo, geauxbill, what is the question?
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Old 09-24-2011, 03:11 PM   #3
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Sorry, new here trying to decide if everything about this hitch is ok,read alot about alot of hitches, everyone says buy mine,looking for advice from all of you thats been down this road,I learned to ask first then buy.
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No problem, that`s what the site is for I was just not sure what info you needed. Does this hitch have the Dual Cam sway control?
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I prefer the Equal-i-zer hitch as it automatically includes the sway control into it's design. http://www.equalizerhitch.com/

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Old 09-24-2011, 03:49 PM   #6
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My tv is a 2002 tundra v6 toyota rates it to tow 5000lbs,the TTwe are looking at is a Jayco ultralite 221 gvw 4950, dry 3850 looking to travel across the country I want to be careful for everyone ,sway bar attaches on one side of hitch,said it must br removed to back up.
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If the dealer is recommending that particular place they are either realated or they have had good experiences with their work. Probably the latter. Your Toyota dealer can probably do the work also.

The smallish V6 makes me wonder if you will have enough power. You are looking at a heavy box that is nearly 5000#. Perhaps others that tow with V6's can chime in.
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What is a safe weight to pull,Very confusing, rear gear 4:10 maybe I am wrong about this ,
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snip....I learned to ask first then buy.
Smart move, because there is a lot of information out there to digest to insure a safe and enjoyable TV/TT combination.

As far as the Reese Pro Series WDH' s (weight distribution hitches), they are a great WDH as long as they are rated and adjusted correctly (like all WDH's). As mentioned, they don't have integrated sway control like the Reese HP Dual Cam WDH or Equal-i-zer brand WDH, but IMO based on the size and weight of TT you are looking at a Pro Series WDH with a manual control sway bar should be more than adequate. It should be noted that the prior two integrated sway control WDH products would provide enhanced sway control.

Matching the right TV to the right TT is critical, and the first thing to know is that speaking in terms of "loaded" weights will tend to keep you out of trouble (in lieu of "dry" or "unloaded" weights).

As an example lets look at the published Jayco Ultra Lite 221 specifications that you are considering:

Weights:
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 3,805
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 510
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 4,950
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1,385

Measurements:
Exterior Length 26' 1"
Exterior Height w/ AC 120"
Interior Height 78"

Tank Capacities:
Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 28.5
Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 30.5
Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 30.5

The UVW of 3,805lbs isn't "ship weight", figure Ship Weight to be about 3,955lbs. The dealer will add battery, hitch, etc., bringing the "off the dealer lot" weight to about 4,055lbs.Now we add your camping stuff, but I should state that we all have different loading habits. For now lets use a conservative weight of 500lbs for your camping cargo (doesn't include any water in the fresh water tank), so now we are looking at a "loaded" Jayco Ultra Lite 221 weight of approximately 4,555lbs.

The recommended "loaded" tongue weight should be 10% to 15% of the loaded TT weight, so that means: 455lbs to 683lbs. So,the WDH should be rated at 600lbs minimum, but don't exceed an 800lb rated WDH. Even if you loaded the TT to it's GVWR of 4,950lbs, a 600lb rated WDH would work ideally if you didn't exceed a 12% loaded tongue weight. Also when sizing a WDH make sure that there aren't any rating restrictions posted on the TT's a-frame (near the ball coupler).

Your Tundra's tow rating of 5,000lbs is based on the same vehicle's base model "curb weight" which only includes a 150lb driver and full tank of fuel. The combined weight of your Tundra's options, passengers, and cargo must be subtracted from the 5,000lb to get your actual tow rating. For reference: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3866

IMO, the Jayco Ultra Lite 221 will max out your 2002 Tundra's weight limits, or possibly exceed them. Not a good TV/TT combination for an enjoyable cross country trip, especially once you experience your first hill, not to mention mountain summit.

Also keep in mind that the receiver that is mounted on the rear of your TV should be rated to handle all of the loaded weights of the TT.

I hope this helps..., but take your time to review the information and feel free to ask additional questions should they arise.

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advice taken, will look for a lighter tt,thanks very much
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