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Old 09-24-2011, 01:49 PM   #1
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A jayco dealer I want to buy my TT from wants me to use a local businsss to install my brake controller on my 2002 tundra(needs wired from back to front). Thats ok ,but he wants me to use a reese pro series hitch and sway control, what are we thinking? Will be buying in a few months, waiting on retirement. Really like this forum
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Soooooooo, geauxbill, what is the question?
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Sorry, new here trying to decide if everything about this hitch is ok,read alot about alot of hitches, everyone says buy mine,looking for advice from all of you thats been down this road,I learned to ask first then buy.
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No problem, that`s what the site is for I was just not sure what info you needed. Does this hitch have the Dual Cam sway control?
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:44 PM   #5
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I prefer the Equal-i-zer hitch as it automatically includes the sway control into it's design. http://www.equalizerhitch.com/

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My tv is a 2002 tundra v6 toyota rates it to tow 5000lbs,the TTwe are looking at is a Jayco ultralite 221 gvw 4950, dry 3850 looking to travel across the country I want to be careful for everyone ,sway bar attaches on one side of hitch,said it must br removed to back up.
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If the dealer is recommending that particular place they are either realated or they have had good experiences with their work. Probably the latter. Your Toyota dealer can probably do the work also.

The smallish V6 makes me wonder if you will have enough power. You are looking at a heavy box that is nearly 5000#. Perhaps others that tow with V6's can chime in.
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What is a safe weight to pull,Very confusing, rear gear 4:10 maybe I am wrong about this ,
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:02 PM   #9
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snip....I learned to ask first then buy.
Smart move, because there is a lot of information out there to digest to insure a safe and enjoyable TV/TT combination.

As far as the Reese Pro Series WDH' s (weight distribution hitches), they are a great WDH as long as they are rated and adjusted correctly (like all WDH's). As mentioned, they don't have integrated sway control like the Reese HP Dual Cam WDH or Equal-i-zer brand WDH, but IMO based on the size and weight of TT you are looking at a Pro Series WDH with a manual control sway bar should be more than adequate. It should be noted that the prior two integrated sway control WDH products would provide enhanced sway control.

Matching the right TV to the right TT is critical, and the first thing to know is that speaking in terms of "loaded" weights will tend to keep you out of trouble (in lieu of "dry" or "unloaded" weights).

As an example lets look at the published Jayco Ultra Lite 221 specifications that you are considering:

Weights:
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 3,805
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 510
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 4,950
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1,385

Measurements:
Exterior Length 26' 1"
Exterior Height w/ AC 120"
Interior Height 78"

Tank Capacities:
Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 28.5
Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 30.5
Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 30.5

The UVW of 3,805lbs isn't "ship weight", figure Ship Weight to be about 3,955lbs. The dealer will add battery, hitch, etc., bringing the "off the dealer lot" weight to about 4,055lbs.Now we add your camping stuff, but I should state that we all have different loading habits. For now lets use a conservative weight of 500lbs for your camping cargo (doesn't include any water in the fresh water tank), so now we are looking at a "loaded" Jayco Ultra Lite 221 weight of approximately 4,555lbs.

The recommended "loaded" tongue weight should be 10% to 15% of the loaded TT weight, so that means: 455lbs to 683lbs. So,the WDH should be rated at 600lbs minimum, but don't exceed an 800lb rated WDH. Even if you loaded the TT to it's GVWR of 4,950lbs, a 600lb rated WDH would work ideally if you didn't exceed a 12% loaded tongue weight. Also when sizing a WDH make sure that there aren't any rating restrictions posted on the TT's a-frame (near the ball coupler).

Your Tundra's tow rating of 5,000lbs is based on the same vehicle's base model "curb weight" which only includes a 150lb driver and full tank of fuel. The combined weight of your Tundra's options, passengers, and cargo must be subtracted from the 5,000lb to get your actual tow rating. For reference: http://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3866

IMO, the Jayco Ultra Lite 221 will max out your 2002 Tundra's weight limits, or possibly exceed them. Not a good TV/TT combination for an enjoyable cross country trip, especially once you experience your first hill, not to mention mountain summit.

Also keep in mind that the receiver that is mounted on the rear of your TV should be rated to handle all of the loaded weights of the TT.

I hope this helps..., but take your time to review the information and feel free to ask additional questions should they arise.

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advice taken, will look for a lighter tt,thanks very much
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I agree with Bob but if you plan on replacing your tv soon for a newer Tundra with the 5.7 L motor this trailer your looking at may fit the bill. You may wish you had purchased this trailer if your present tv will be replaced with one that is more capable. I'm in a similar position and that is why I mention it. Btw my present Corolla has 640 thousand kilometers on it and still going strong.
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When buying a new trailer always look for one that is two feet longer than you think you will need.
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I do see anything that i can pull from jayco , maybe a pup but want a tt so...............looking at everyone ,unable to get new tv , trying to make this work out.
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Have you looked at the Jayco Swift SLX series? both floorplans under 3200lbs GVWR. Or are they too small for your needs?
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Bit to small, grandkids,plus we want to travel out west in a tt to just see what we can see,other vendors have some lighter stuff, but not as good as jayco,
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Just my opinion but if you buy something that`s big but REAL light, you may run into construction durability issues. So with a larger TT a larger TV may be in order. Since you say another TV is out of the cards, and I can certainly understand that as we do not all have the money to go get a new one on demand, Take your time and weigh all the options including hybrids and yes popups and maybe the right TT with some compromises.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:14 PM   #17
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geauxbill,
I can't offer any better advice than what's already been offered, but I can give my limited experience. The bride and I picked up our TT on the 19th and drug it 1100 miles home. We started looking at a pup but quickly changed our minds when we looked at a couple of hard-sides. We picked the 23B as it was a great weight for our existing TV (03 ford expedition 5.4). We were lucky in that we already own a suitable TV. We picked a hybrid model because of the combination of the shorter length vs. The avail room when the beds are extended. We plan to travel this great country of ours in extended outings of 30-ish days or so once I reitre. The bad news is that's still 5 years out. We have a single g'son and expect he will spend time with us, oh yeah his parents too. We will spend the next few years sorting out if this size and configuration that is right for us. I can tell already that the hybrid is a bit more of a pain to set up and strike but manageable - so far.
The hardest part of our first outing was scrubbing the love-bugs off the front end after we got home.
Continue surfing this site (and others) for good advice, remember that no one here is trying to sell you something and everyone shares a common interest.
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