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Old 04-26-2016, 02:54 PM   #1
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LED Ceiling Lights in Greyhawk

We have noticed that some of the ceiling lights in our 2015 are starting to dim. The hardwired lights are made from an array of 15 individual diodes (9 on the smaller over table/sofa lights). We are seeing some of these diodes dying and wondered if anyone else is having this issue. The dealer already replaced one bulb assembly under warranty since it was completely dead, but what about the others that are dying a slow death? Where to find replacement bulb arrays?
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Our 5th is a '13 and came with all incandescent bulbs that I replaced with LED's. I'm not an expert by any means but I would think you could get an aftermarket plug-in style and clip the plug and solder in place of your dead LED unit. If you can remove the fixture and make sure there's no electronics in the fixture and not on the square card that'd be good to do before diving in but I'd bet it's all on the card. I bought all of mine from a supplier in China and got extras. I've had a couple of failures so the spares come in handy.
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I would just replace the dead diode with a socket. Then you can have whatever LED you want, and if it ever fails, you just pop a new one in, just like if a standard bulb blew.

I don't get why manufacturers are hard wiring all these panels? Why not use the same old fixtures we've always had, but replace the elements with an appropriately socketed LED panel? They're SUPER easy to find in a variety of shades and brightness levels...
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I would just replace the dead diode with a socket. Then you can have whatever LED you want, and if it ever fails, you just pop a new one in, just like if a standard bulb blew.

I don't get why manufacturers are hard wiring all these panels? Why not use the same old fixtures we've always had, but replace the elements with an appropriately socketed LED panel? They're SUPER easy to find in a variety of shades and brightness levels...
You make a good point about the fixtures. Might be worth looking for older versions and "downgrade" the fixture.
A thought about my LED failures. They've all been the same kind, replacements for the "small" halogen bulbs. I think it's a bad batch. None of the other types have given me issues in 2 years.
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I don't get why manufacturers are hard wiring all these panels? Why not use the same old fixtures we've always had, but replace the elements with an appropriately socketed LED panel? They're SUPER easy to find in a variety of shades and brightness levels...
Agree with you completely here. I really don't understand why these LEDs are installed like they're permanent. They're subject to failure just like any other electronic device. The LEDs may last a long time but never as long as claimed. Just installed some can lights in my house using standard fixtures and screwing LEDs into them just like any other bulb. Sure is nice to be able to select my color and brightness and then be able to replace easily if they fail.

Sure hope the LEDs in my MH last longer than a couple of years but, like somebody else mentioned, I'll be replacing with socketed fixtures if they do fail.

Just for grins, went to Ebay to see what they have now for RV lighting and they have a ton of it. If you don't feel like getting this repaired under warranty, then there's a nice assortment of 12VDC LED lights and fixtures available. If you're not comfortable with Ebay, I'm sure there's lots of other places with the same stuff.
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Why do they do it the way they do? When no other reason comes to mind, its because its cheaper.

Duh, right?
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Why do they do it the way they do? When no other reason comes to mind, its because its cheaper.

Duh, right?
It can't be that much cheaper. I get cheaper, especially when you're talking about the quantity of lights Jayco probably installs. But at the same time, how many are they replacing under warranty? Of course, there are a TON of things that would fit in that category though...

LEDs are quite failure prone, especially the cheap ones. Why not make the elements replaceable and save in the long run?

Still, if it were me, I wouldn't have them replaced under warranty, I would replace it with a better part my self.
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Still, if it were me, I wouldn't have them replaced under warranty, I would replace it with a better part my self.
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I haven't seen any go out on our 2016 yet but now I'll pay attention!

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It can't be that much cheaper. I get cheaper, especially when you're talking about the quantity of lights Jayco probably installs. But at the same time, how many are they replacing under warranty?
The Chinese company they get them from probably credits them.
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