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Old 02-12-2012, 06:03 PM   #11
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I have a friend who has the older 2 stage IOTA and his batteries have been replaced twice as a result of a constant plug in. They were (2) 6V's. For some reason I think the older 2 stage models just keep pumping in more than what is being drawn and the batteries tend ot run hotter.

Pull your manuals and check the model. Most 2010 and newer are 3 stage but earlier you need to confirm as the changes could be mid year or by specific model.

They do make an upgrade to convert the older 2 stage to 3 stage. Also if you have the three stage you may have a green light in the fude panel that blinks a certain pattern based on the cycle it is in.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:33 PM   #12
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That begs the next, on-topic question: If the battery is fully charged, and the converter is NOT a 3 stage charger, then would it be better to disconnect the battery and just run purely off of shore power? Is that safe for the converter and attached devices?
The short answer is no. Anything in the rig that uses 12V would drain the battery. Better to monitor the battery levels more often or look into a higher quality converter IMO.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:07 PM   #13
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The short answer is no. Anything in the rig that uses 12V would drain the battery. Better to monitor the battery levels more often or look into a higher quality converter IMO.
I think you misunderstood my question. Let me rephrase it this way: My camper has no battery at all. Is it safe to use the appliances purely off the converter, in the complete absence of any battery?
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I think you misunderstood my question. Let me rephrase it this way: My camper has no battery at all. Is it safe to use the appliances purely off the converter, in the complete absence of any battery?
Yes. If you are plugged into shore power, you are effectively using the converter to produce all AC and DC voltages in your trailer. Just make sure your battery leads are isolated so you don't have any shorts.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:49 AM   #15
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Thanks, Qahog. I've wired a battery disconnect on the battery box itself that isolates the battery from the camper, while remaining connected to the emergency brakes and tow vehicle. If I should find that my charger is not a 3 stage (as described above), I could disconnect the battery and camp at electrified sites without any fear of over-charging.

Mine's a 2011 X23B, so hopefully it's 3 stage. But I like reading and learning from you all to understand all of these things!!!
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Rusty, mine is a 2010 22FB and I know it has the charge wizard (3-stage) technology so I am pretty sure yours does to. One way to confirm is to find the model # of the converter, do a search and I bet your "overcharging" fears will be alleviated.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #17
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If it is made by progressive dynamics, you can look up the model # on their web site. Some have the Charge Wizard built in and some have a plug where one can be added. They used to cost about $25. Very good investment for keeping you battery in top shape.
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My camper is in storage, along with the paperwork. I'll have to check to see if it's got a Charge Wizard next time I make it out to the storage yard. Thanks again.
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so on that note, any real issues/problems with leaving it connected to a standard outside wall outlet (using a 30A to 15/20A adapter plug)? my dealer gave me one in my "starter kit" so Im assuming thats whats it there for and there shouldnt be any real issues with using this as long as Im not running everything at once?? My home electrical is about 6yrs old and the outside outlet isnt too far from the breaker box in the garage if that makes any difference.
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You will be fine with that type setup for the converter alone. I turn off all the major CB's for the micro, A/C and water heater just to be sure nothing can come on.

Also on another note I just discovered that the converter in my unit has a desulfation process much like the tenders have. This cycles every 21 hrs of non use on the batteries to keep them up. These are on most newer 3 stage chargers.
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