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Old 02-19-2013, 02:29 PM   #1
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1500/2500, What are the real differences?

1500/2500 What are the REAL differences?

There have been some discussions in towing threads about the differences between these trucks. Being in the unique position of currently owning and having towed my TT with both of the same brand and model year, here are a few of my observations along with the numbers.

2004 Chevy 2500 HD CREW 6l engine, 4.10 rear. 2WD
Payload-3474 lbs.
Tow rating- 10,000 lbs.
GVWR- 9,200 lbs.
GCWR- 16,000 lbs.
Tow package
Transmission- 4L80 (Heavier duty then 4L60)
Lugs - 8
OEM tire size- LT 245/75R16 LOAD RANGE E 3042 lbs. Recommended pressure 60-80 lbs. max.
Larger brakes, heavier duty braking system in general.
Entirely different frame from 1500, much more beefy.
Ride when empty -rough on bad roads, fair on good roads
Towing MPG - 9-10 average
Empty MPG - around 13 in mixed driving

2004 Chevy 1500 5.3l engine Extended cab, 3.73 rear 2WD
Payload- 1454 lbs.
Tow rating- 8100 lbs.
GVWR- 6200 lbs.
GCWR-13,000 lbs.
Tow package
Transmission- 4L60
Lugs- 6
OEM tire size- P255/70R16 2271 lbs. Recommended pressure 40-44 lbs max.
Much better ride empty then 2500 on all roads due to soft springs and P tires
Towing MPG- 9-10 average
Empty MPG- around 17 in mixed driving



The two trucks really are ENTIRELY different animals, despite the fairly close tow rating. When towing our 28BHS (GVWR 7500LBS. EMPTY 5653LBS.)The 2500 offers a much more capable and desirable towing experience. I no longer have to worry about exceeding my payload which was occurring with the 1500 when considering a TW approaching 1000 lbs, 5 people in the truck, along with cargo in the bed. Towing with the 1500 I never really felt comfortable with the combo, especially on windy days. While I was comfortably within the manufacturers tow rating, I always felt like I was maxing out the suspension. With the 2500 and its 3474lb payload I never have to worry about even coming close to exceeding it now.

Also while we still use the term 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton, these are really obsolete IMO because these trucks carry so much more then 1/2 or 3/4 of a ton now.

Any other observations about the differences in 1500/2500 or 150/250 are welcome, I`m sure I missed a few.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:26 PM   #2
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Lee,
I'm wondering about the GCWR for your 2500 model. My manual says with the 4.10 rear end, the GCWR is 18,500?

I agree, there is a world of difference in towing stability between the 2500 and 1500 versions.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:42 PM   #3
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Lee,
I'm wondering about the GCWR for your 2500 model. My manual says with the 4.10 rear end, the GCWR is 18,500?

I agree, there is a world of difference in towing stability between the 2500 and 1500 versions.
I believe they have increased the horse power, tow rating, and GCWR since the 2004 model year on the 6L 2500.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:46 PM   #4
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Great comparison...thanks!
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I can't wait to use my new 2500

We bought a 26.5 rks Eagle Super Lite HT last year and I towed it with a Dodge RAM 1500 with a Hemi and 3.92 gears. It towed with no trouble at all, the Hemi is a great engine. I was always nervous about being close to the top end of the cargo rating as the pin weight of my HT approached 1400 lbs. Once you filled the cab with 3 people, and had a tank full of fuel, I figured I was close to the max. Despite that, the truck performed flawlessly, albeit a bit of a sag in the rear end.

I was toying with the idea of timbrens or air bags.

Then rebates/incentives came in for the 2500, so I just took delivery on a 2012 RAM 2500 with a Hemi. I am excited to hook up the RV and tow it around! New truck has everything I want and more. Nice tow mirrors, included electronic braking system and now a huge crew cab instead of the quad.

I'll be sure to chime in once I tow the Eagle, to help inquiring minds.

Any questions about either model, shoot me a line.

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1500/2500, What are the real differences?

I am jealous!!!!!!

Towing the eagle ht 23.5 with 2010 ram quad cab hemi, added E rated tires, tow mirrors integretated brake controller and timbrens
We are at the max but the ram does a great job of towing it.

I would still love a 2500 hemi but will stick with the 1500 for as long as it works well.
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I have been towing our EXP 213 with our 2003 GMC 4X4 equipped with 5.3 l, tow pkg, and 4:10 rear end. GVWR of 6400lbs, GCWR 14000 lbs tow rating of 8800 lbs. Although this trailer is slightly more than 1/2 of the tow rating, as soon as I hook up the truck and load it up I will exceed GVWR very easily and have to be very careful about where I load gear. Most of our towing is done in the mountains, and the truck handles the load very well, but I'm always worried about the maxed out 1/2 ton self destructing on the side of the Coquihalla highway or somewhere similar at the worst possible time. I watch my cooling system(no bugs in my rad LOL) and brakes like a hawk. When I replace this truck it will be with a properly equipped 2500.
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Towed my boat today for the first time with the 2500. What a great tow, this truck was just playing with it and no porposing like I was getting with the 1500 on bad roads. Love it............
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Not surprised to hear how your 2500HD tows the boat.
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Next trial workout for the 2500? The "pot trailer". (That`s crab pot trailer for the uninformed)
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