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04-02-2016, 02:27 PM
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1500 or 2500?
Hi. We just bought a 2016 264bhw. We are now choosing our tow vehicle and are going back and forth between a 2010 Silverado 1500 crew cab LT 4w. It has towing package and trans cooler, 6 speed trans, and 5.3 V8, with 3.42 axle ratio, and Z71. They are asking $19,700. My husband just keeps worrying about the off road package shocks being a pain and wondering if we should just be patient and wait for a 2500 Silverado to pop up. Any help? Any thoughts? We are excited to go back to camping!
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04-02-2016, 02:32 PM
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Just my two cents. Look to the 2500s. Yes, a 1500 will do the job. However, I have never heard of anyone saying: "I wish I had a lighter weight 1500 class truck when it comes to towing trailers or hauling." Yet, there are lots of people who always wonder, second guess or openly say: "I wish I had gone with a bigger truck."
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04-02-2016, 02:37 PM
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I had a 2010 1500 similar to what your asking about. It would probably tow it fine depending on how much you pack. The Z71 package and shocks don't really make the ride any worse in my opinion. However I would go with a 2500. It will do a far better job and if you decide on a bigger trailer you don't have to worry if the truck can do it. I sold my 1500 for a 2500. Wish I had bought a 2500 to begin with. I'm in the process of getting a bigger camper and don't have to worry about upgrading my truck.
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04-02-2016, 02:50 PM
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Thank you! My gut was saying to go 2500. We had one when we pulled our Airstream and it was a breeze. now to try and find one
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04-02-2016, 02:51 PM
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A couple trips some moderate hills and I'm sure you will wish more truck with the 1500 5.3. Get a 2500 and you won't be sorry, plus you can up size again and not need a new truck.
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04-02-2016, 04:04 PM
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I have basically the same trailer and exactly that truck (2010, 5.3L, 3.42, Z71) and I wouldn't move up to a 2500 myself. I towed the trailer around 2,500 miles last season with it and it did great! We have been to WV and parts of MD and VA with pretty steep grades and it did just fine.
I drive it every day and like the smooth ride and the mileage isn't bad at all (avg 19 MPG mixed driving daily). Many on here will disagree, but that is my 2 cents...
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04-02-2016, 04:15 PM
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I have a 2016 264bhw and tow it with a 2016 Ram 1500....your 1500 Silverado will be fine
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04-02-2016, 04:32 PM
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Towing with a 1500 is an interesting situation. I bought a 29qbs, heavier and longer then what you'll be towing but I thought it fit the numbers. My truck could tow 9500lbs so as far as I could figure I'd have lots of room. So bought the trailer then started doing a bunch of research. Ya I know.....bass ackwards. Turns out that truck that could tow 9500lbs, once filled with family, dog and a full gas tank, had a payload of around 800lbs. That's not a lot of tongue weight not to mention a bunch of stuff id like to put in the box. Still towed fine but I like to be able to load it without worry. I vote 2500. Sounds like you already made that decision anyway.
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04-02-2016, 07:14 PM
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Welcome and congrats on the new rig!!!
We had a '10 Chevy 1500 ccsb 5.3/6spd/3.42 Z71 4x4, towed our ~7200lb trailer at that time just fine here in Michigan. The issue as mentioned, is the payload of the truck!!!
There is a yellow payload sticker in the drivers door jamb of all vehicles built since '06 (or so), stating "All passengers and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs". On average for a '10-1500, they have about 1500lbs payload, depending on the options, cab/ bed combo... As stated, all passengers, cargo-coolers/firewood/bikes/etc, any accessories added-truck topper/step bars/mud flaps/etc, the wdh, AND the tt tw. Our '10 had 155xlbs. Loaded with a ~920lb tw, the family, bikes and a cooler, we were over the gvwr of the truck by about 200lbs. Under the rear axle rating by about 50lbs.
As you can see in my signature, we now have a 2500HD. And then we bought a bigger trailer!!! Lol We now don't have to worry a it just how much is loaded in the truck bed, within reason.
So to answer the original question, yes, a 1500 is enough truck, depending on how much the family weighs, the weight of the accessories you will add, what you load in the truck bed, and just how much the tw is due to how you load the tt. I know, probably a lot of unknown variables!!! Lol
Side note, how many miles are on the 1500? As reference, we traded in our very clean, decently optioned '10 LT in Sept '13 w/ 31k miles, for about $24k.
Look into a good wdh with integrated sway control. A Reese Dual Cam, Reese SC, and the Equal-I-Zer 4 way system are very good for the price.
If needed, follow my signature links for a wdh refresher! And even if the dealer sets the wdh up, it is to an empty trailer. You will probably need to readjust the wdh once the trailer is loaded up for a trip.
Good luck!!!
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04-02-2016, 07:29 PM
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Dry weight of my 26bhs is 4600lbs...fully loaded no more than 5500-6000...like I said your 1500 will be more than enough.
And Canadian kid big difference in weight between 29qbs and 264bhw
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04-02-2016, 07:30 PM
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I meant weight of my 26bhw not bhs
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04-02-2016, 07:36 PM
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Coldfusion there is a huge weight difference you're right! But with a tongue weight listed at 510, add propane batteries and hitch that sure doesn't leave you with much room for anything else. If you want to stay under GVWR.
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04-02-2016, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canadiankid
Coldfusion there is a huge weight difference you're right! But with a tongue weight listed at 510, add propane batteries and hitch that sure doesn't leave you with much room for anything else. If you want to stay under GVWR.
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That's true
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04-02-2016, 09:01 PM
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You guys are beyond helpful. We are SO grateful. While looking for the Siverado 2500HD we also came across the Suburban 2500 and the Yukon 2500 HD. We have been reading up and these seem pretty powerful. To be perfectly honest though, we don't know much about SUVs and thought they'd never be able to do the job. So silly question- does the 2500 HD mean they are the equivalent to the Silverado 2500 or are they more like the 1500 after taking everything into consideration? Or should we stay away from These SUVs all together? Thank you again!!
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04-02-2016, 11:44 PM
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To my understanding a 2500 HD is the same as the 2500 truck, it's on the same classic, but I'm not sure the payload might be different, maybe someone who have a 2500 suv will chime in.
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04-03-2016, 12:24 AM
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2500 any day, hands down
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04-03-2016, 01:35 AM
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You will have a tough time finding a 2500 Burb or Tahoe. Not made anymore and just don't seem to be many used for sale. The Ford Excursion is a bit easier to find. They were manufactured from 2000-2001. Equivalent to the F250 and 2500's. It's a 3/4 ton and it's a beast! 1500-1950# payload depending. Diesel and 4x4 take away some payload.
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04-03-2016, 01:38 AM
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To add, if you are interested in the Excursion head over to the FTE forum. Many owners mod them with heavier duty springs if needed for more payload as those are the limiting factor.
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04-03-2016, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canadiankid
Coldfusion there is a huge weight difference you're right! But with a tongue weight listed at 510, add propane batteries and hitch that sure doesn't leave you with much room for anything else. If you want to stay under GVWR.
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I must be missing something... with a payload of 1795# on my Silverado, how is it even close?!?
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04-03-2016, 08:08 AM
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That's the posted payload from factory? Have you ever taken your truck to the scales?
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