Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:45 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NWI
Posts: 14
2013 Grand Caravan pulling a 2015 1007UD

We are completely new to towing and I am picking up my 1007 this week and just wanted to hear some opinions on if I will need WD and or sway control. I chose this model because of the conservative weights for my tow vehicle.

TV - 3250 lbs GVWR, 325 lb hitch weight, (according to my manual with 3-5 passengers & luggage.) I find this strange that they worded it like this...

PUP- dry weight 1725 (unknown actual shipping weight, but approx 1950. GVWR - 2550 dry tounge weight 165.

My pup will not have brakes and dodge recommends them with trailers above 1000lbs, and requires them above 2000lbs.

What say you?
__________________

cyprant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 04:19 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Brownie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Greater Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,119
I don't have the expertise to help you with your towing question, but many here on The Forum do. I just wanted to welcome you.
__________________

__________________
2013 Eagle 266RKS
2011 Ford F-150 w/3.5L Ecoboost & H.D. Tow Package
Brownie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 05:12 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
mcfarmall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kalamazoo, West Michigan
Posts: 1,814
I towed a 12' popup with 5 bikes on the roof with no trailer brakes or sway control with my '03 Honda Odyssey no problem. As long as you don't concentrate weight aft of the trailer axle you'll be fine. If you're really worried about sway get a friction type sway control device and put on there but I don't think you'll need it.
__________________
2006 23B Hybrid with 10k round bar WDH
2011 F150 4x4 SCREW Ecoboost, Max Tow, Integrated TBC, 3.73 LS axle, Firestone Ride Rite airbags.
mcfarmall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 09:35 AM   #4
Moderator Emeritus
 
Rustic Eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,370
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyprant View Post
snip......My pup will not have brakes and dodge recommends them with trailers above 1000lbs, and requires them above 2000lbs.
What say you?
Welcome to JOF

I agree with you that the ship weight will be a little heavier then the published UVW of 1,725lbs, and do to the limited CCC the loaded PUP weight could approach the 2,550lb GVWR (depends on your personal loading habits).

IMO having at least the Hydraulic Surge Brakes (Jayco option) would be desirable based on the fact that the PUP loaded will weigh more then 2,000lbs, even under conservative loading.

Bob
__________________

2016 GM 2500HD 6.0L/4.10
2018 Jay Flight 24RBS
2005 Jayco Eagle 278FBS (retired)
1999 Jayco Eagle 246FB (retired)
Reese HP Dual Cam (integrated sway control)
Rustic Eagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 10:02 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 2,058
Mini vans are very nice TVs for PUPs. We towed a 2600# PUP with a 2000 Pontiac Montana and it was like they were made for each other.

That said, my PUPs were both equipped with hydraulic surge brakes. I would not tow a pup that size with a mini-van without brakes. Without trailer brakes, a van full of people, your "stuff", and the trailer itself, you will have far too many white knuckle moments.

I will say that surge brakes suck. Since you don't have any brakes, you can add electric brakes which are much better. There is lots of info online on how to do that, but its probably easiest to buy a new axle that already has the brakes. It may cost you a few bucks but it would well worth it.
__________________
Chuck
2013 Jayco Jayfeather X20 E, 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab Z71 SLE
DocBrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 10:16 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Livinglife2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Olsburg
Posts: 342
Stay on paved roads, our friends bought a new mini van to pull there very small pop up last summer, they went on vacation to a new campground that they had never been to and it was down a step hill on a gravel road to the waters edge. Very nice campground and Everything was good till they go to leave,the mini van couldn't pull their pop up back up the hill. Had to get towed back up the hill to get out of the campground. The weight of the trailer was just enough that front tires just spun on the gravel and not enough power to get them back up. So once they got back home they went straight to the car lot and traded it in on a new nissan armada, so choose your roads with caution hills and gravel you might not make it too far.
__________________
2015 Eagle 34.5 BHTS FW
2012 Chevy 2500HD LTZ CC 4x4 DMAX
B&W Companion
TST 507 flow thru

Livinglife2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 10:22 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 91
We used a setup very similar to yours for many years and miles, including an 8 week 10k mile trip around the US one summer. Our TV was a Voyager, our PUP was a 1993 1206, weights approximately the same. We didn't have surge brakes and we were "okay" but I think you would be happier having them if you can add them. We initially found our setup a little squirrelly with no WD. We found a lightweight WD hitch from Reese that we really liked. The WD arms sit up on top of the tongue arms on special friction pads, giving you WD and sway control in one. Made the setup feel very solid, hardly knew the trailer was behind us. I would highly recommend one if they still make them.
waynem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 10:55 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Threebutchers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 6,818
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynem View Post
.........We initially found our setup a little squirrelly with no WD. We found a lightweight WD hitch from Reese that we really liked. The WD arms sit up on top of the tongue arms on special friction pads, giving you WD and sway control in one. Made the setup feel very solid, hardly knew the trailer was behind us. I would highly recommend one if they still make them.
Reese 350 WDH w/ Antisway....below is a link to my experience purchasing and installing one.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=15808
Threebutchers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 11:13 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
max2bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: bozeman,montana
Posts: 232
we have a 2012 1007 and I believe the ship weight is 1980 lbs. that does not include the battery or water though. I would not tow it without brakes period.
__________________
2000 dodge ram laramie slt,cummins, 2014 jayco eagle touring edition 28.5 rkds, 1991 scamper 065s 2017 jayco 145rb baja edition
max2bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 12:05 PM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NWI
Posts: 14
Where can I find the cost of a new Axel?
__________________

cyprant is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.